AMA (ask me anything) Thread. Undocumented>Arrest by ICE>Detention>Bond & Supervision - Page 6

I really don't understand those fighting their case there with criminal convictions, like you said they are just backing up the system with cases that are helpless. I met former green card holders who were there for violent crimes and drug trafficking and have done years in the pen trying to stay, come on.

Question, we're there "reps" at your unit "representing" you based on your nationality? Where I was when you first come the inmates ask you where you from and if you are gang affiliated. Depending on your answer they would send you with a "rep" from that group, central American, black, asian/Indian, etc etc. They would explain the rules of the place etc

Exactly. They know too, but for whatever reason they are holding onto false hope.

I mean, i can understand trying to fight a case like that if you have a family, because you probably don't want to leave them behind. But for the most part, everyone fighting cases under those circumstances knows that they are going to lose.

I remember one dude who apparently had been fighting his case for like two years, only to be deported after all that. It was so sad. I think he was fighting asylum.

And no, there was nothing gang-related going on in the detention facility where i was being held. Everyone was actually pretty laid back, including the dudes who were there for violent crimes.

I just kept my head down and minded my own business, and everyone i interacted with was nice to me. I helped some detainees write letters for courts, translate things, and help them prepare for their bond hearings or their master hearings. I tried to just stay busy as much as i could in order to pass the time. They had a small library where i was able to get a few books to read.

I'm sure conditions vary from one detention center to another.

I heard that Albanians do this. They go to court. Say they want to stay here in USA and the judge grants them green cards.

I don't think that's how it works, lol.

my wife's uncle did a road trip with his friends from nyc to North Carolina, by mistake they ended up in a military base/camp and they turned them to ice. only one person did not sign his deportation papers and went to court it took like 6 years but he won.

So, I asked a question about this, but nobody seems to understand. So I ask you based in what you just wrote:"For you DACA recipients, i'd recommend not putting yourselves in any kind of precarious situation that may leave you vulnerable to any kind of accusation or charge. "
As a juvenile i have 2 adjudications: no gang or amrs related. This adjudications are in MY JUVENILE RECORDS.
But when you apply for daca you HAVE to mark if you ever been detained, arrested, acused, etc even in juvenile court. I do mark yes! and the first time i applied for daca i did submitted all documentation. I GOT ACCEPTED, GOT DACA, RENEW DACA, AND ALSO LOST MY CARD AND APPLIED FOR A NEW ONE.
Now, going back at what you mention before, my daca expired on december 2016. Is my understanding that i can still apply for RENEWAL during a 1 year period.
But considering new administration and EO about anyone with criminal records, no matter if convicted or not etc... and also that my status as a daca expired as well.....what you think about me applying for daca RENEWAL and my juvenile records been outhere...

Well i mean, at this point what harm could it do if you try? You're already in the system. You're already on their radar. If they are gonna come for you, then they are gonna come for you. DACA or not.

You have to remember that all of this is done at their discretion. They may choose to go after you or they might not. That's the problem, you just don't know.

If i were you, i'd apply. But don't be blindsided if it gets denied and ICE comes after you.

thanks a lot for sharing! all very informative. considering what the new administration is doing, and that probably many of us still have family members who are undocumented/without status, im surprised you dont have more questions. I have a few:

After being detained by ICE, was it difficult to contact friends/family? what was that process like? Ive heard of people who are taken to detention centers in different states and their family having trouble finding/contacting them

Did you have a private immigration attorney prior to being detained by ICE? if not, was it difficult to acquire one and get them to represent you? Did people on the outside have to get involved?

Did ICE try to make you sign forms giving away your rights/etc?

I can't really speak for every case, as they are all different, but i'll answer your questions based on my personal experience.

After you're arrested by ICE, they allow you to make phone calls when you're being processed. Or at least they allowed me to make a few just to notify friends and whatnot regarding the situation. I've already answered details regarding the process, so you can go back to the thread and read my responses to understand how the whole process unfolded from beginning to end.

Getting an attorney involved was difficult at first, as they do not explain the process very well to you once you are detained, or during the first few days. To a certain extent it almost feels like it's every man for himself in there. Fortunately, i was able to get one of my friends outside to contact an experienced attorney thanks to a referral from another detainee. The greatest obstacle most detainees face is money, and having people to help you on the outside is extremely necessary, since you can't really do shit from the inside yourself, other than make phone calls.

ICE has a detainee locator database available on their website, so that's one way your relatives and/or friends can look you up, but that's only if they know you've been detained. Friends and family cannot call you at the detention center, i believe only your legal representation can. But friends and family can visit you according to whatever visitor schedule is set at your detention center.

And no, ICE was very professional in my case. They did not try to trick me or deceive me in any way to sign any documents giving away any of my rights. But then again, i'm a pretty well spoken and educated person, so they probably took that into account, knowing that i carefully paid attention to every detail on every form i signed. Everyone i encountered throughout the whole arrest/processing ordeal was very professional.

Everyone in detention as far as staff goes was for the most part courteous and professional, with the exception of some guards who were total dicks. It's tough to blame them though, as a lot of detainees are also assholes themselves.

My dad was arrested at port of entry(he had an immigrant visa) due to an old warrant/criminal charge he didn't know still existed. We tried to bond him out but was told there is an ice hold on him too. I heard that if you are arrested at the port of entry, he would not receive a bond from an ice judge. any suggestions?