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04-05-2017, 10:27 PM
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So I'm a contractor and we do jobs on site for aerospace,medical, industrial and many more industries . For some companies we have to state if we're U.S. citizens or not, which I'm not. Then some of them ask me for my paper work and I hand them my EAD with my ID. My understanding a citizen is some one born in this country, or some one who obtained citizenship. One company that I'm going to requires me to fill out a citizenship acknowledgement form which says: "Are you one of the following: US citizen, a US lawful permanent resident, an Ashlee granted asylum in the US, an individual granted refugee status in the US, or a temporary resident as defined by 8 USC 1160 (a) or 1255a(a)(1)? Temporary resident does not include temporary US visa holders such as the H-1, TN, etc" Do I fall in any of those categories with DACA? Should I claim that I'm a citizen from now on?
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04-05-2017, 10:30 PM
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Im not 100% sure, somebody will probably answer you right now but one thing is for certain, NEVER claim to be a US Citizen when you are not, it is unforgivable and pretty much takes away any chance of ever being able to become a citizen in the future
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04-05-2017, 11:06 PM
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why are you asking this, you already know the answer. I officially deem you mentally below-grade.

until you become a citizen, you are not one. end of story. claim you are one when youre not and youll be in deeeeep shit. It is heavily frowned upon to do a false claim.
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04-05-2017, 11:10 PM
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You need to research "ITAR" restrictions. You are not a "US person" and cannot make the claim.

Remember, DACA can be rescinded based on public safety or national security grounds. Making false claims to get around national security restrictions is the quickest way for removal, just imo.
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04-05-2017, 11:19 PM
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I always put down that I'm not a citizen. They don't have a problem once I show them my EAD
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Quote:
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I always put down that I'm not a citizen. They don't have a problem once I show them my EAD
One may infer from reading,"fill out a citizenship acknowledgement form" refers to acknowledgement of you being a US citizen.

Still, the form is asking if you are ITAR accessible. Technically, DACA individuals are considered "foreign nationals" and should not have access.

If you have or did gain access before, then clearly there were not issues with ITAR. You would be the first individual with DACA who I have heard had access.
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04-05-2017, 11:42 PM
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Many companies we go to work with ITAR. I feel like some of them don't care or don't know their policies. Some one had told me people get fired and come back working with a different name lol
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Out of curiosity I came to this thread. Now I find myself on big brother's watchlist. Lol
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04-06-2017, 04:53 AM
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why are you asking this, you already know the answer. I officially deem you mentally below-grade.

until you become a citizen, you are not one. end of story. claim you are one when youre not and youll be in deeeeep shit. It is heavily frowned upon to do a false claim.
For your attitude not only you get the medal for a mentally below-grade imbecile but also a god star for being an asshole. Did you know that if there are general (not individual case-based) policies where permanent residents not only get access to work on secure information systems, but also are considered less of a secuirty threat than lots of American citizens.

In this case, Since insufficient information was given, I am unable to state for certain whether or what options you have. However, personally (and believe me they do their diligence as far as checking your background ) I was deemed by the powers "that be that" to be a "US-based person" (which normally is reseverd to US-based citizens and LPRs typically). In other words my ties to this country were deemed string enough, that they superseded those of US citizens oversees or worse, individuals with multiple citizenships.

Best-part: I was considered this before DACA, because of my extensive work in atomic physics projects done in colaboration with the US governtment (as they like to call it, but truth be told we're talking about their money, our time and skill, and they get to play with the prototypes before anyone else)

Instead, of listening to the guy whose post I quoted, find out what/were/and how those jobs will be performed. If you need clearance (by this I mean specifically DHS and in many cases DOD but this will strictly depend on your specific job and/or the level of the project) than your options become very limited, if non existent.
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04-10-2017, 08:16 AM
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For your attitude not only you get the medal for a mentally below-grade imbecile but also a god star for being an asshole. Did you know that if there are general (not individual case-based) policies where permanent residents not only get access to work on secure information systems, but also are considered less of a secuirty threat than lots of American citizens.

In this case, Since insufficient information was given, I am unable to state for certain whether or what options you have. However, personally (and believe me they do their diligence as far as checking your background ) I was deemed by the powers "that be that" to be a "US-based person" (which normally is reseverd to US-based citizens and LPRs typically). In other words my ties to this country were deemed string enough, that they superseded those of US citizens oversees or worse, individuals with multiple citizenships.

Best-part: I was considered this before DACA, because of my extensive work in atomic physics projects done in colaboration with the US governtment (as they like to call it, but truth be told we're talking about their money, our time and skill, and they get to play with the prototypes before anyone else)

Instead, of listening to the guy whose post I quoted, find out what/were/and how those jobs will be performed. If you need clearance (by this I mean specifically DHS and in many cases DOD but this will strictly depend on your specific job and/or the level of the project) than your options become very limited, if non existent.
Did your h1b expire?
Go ahead buddy, claim you're a USC when you're not, dont listen to DogJuiceMan. I'll set up a timer till in india.

DO NOT ENCOURAGE HIM TO BREAK THE LAW
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