Undocumented*Mother of 4 Seeks Refuge in*Connecticut Church to Avoid Deportation - Page 2

And I'm sure it wasn't easy for you, so why would you want other children to go through the same thing you went through? And please don't talk to me about respect of the law because you want your girlfriend to benefit from something that is also considered breaking the law. I'm guessing it doesn't apply to your girlfriend just everyone else right?

Your probably the same type of person that if your girlfriend were to get a green card tomorrow you would come out and say screw the dream act and deport these people.

like I stated in my previous post, empathy and a respect for the law are not mutually exclusive, even if they conflict. Yes it sucked that my dad was locked up during my adolescence but at the end he should have thought about our family in the first place and never commit forgery.

The dreamers are a different story because they're the most sympathetic group of immigrants. They didn't voluntarily break the immigration laws, their parents did. You don't lock up the child of their parents are involved in say like a drug operation because they were not involved with it.

As they always say "you should never be punished for the sins of your parents"

This is kind of like those celebrities who only support causes that affect them directly. Do you have to be sleeping with someone to have sympathy for their cause?

I'm not going to lie, I do believe that Dreamers are in a special position and should get priority because we were brought here as children so the decision was made for us; however, I don't think that people's lives should be completely ruined after 20 years.

For fuck's sake, OJ Simpson is going to get released after 10 years. There are rapists and bank robbers who get released after a few years and are forgiven by society. Somehow when it comes to immigration, there is no sympathy. There has to be an overhaul of the immigration system and there should be some way for those here after so many years to get some sort of legal status without destroying their lives.

Nah, I have always showed sympathy for the Dreamers since 2010 when the Dream act was announced way before I met my girlfriend. Punishing children for the sins of their parents is against my religious beliefs, (Ezekiel 18:20) and morality as a human being.

The immigration system should definitely be reformed and yes maybe the people who have been here for 20+ years should receive some relief but absolutely no citizenship or rights to vote.

This I can agree with. And believe me, most people don't want citizenship or even a right to vote, that's just what the far left wing group wants. Most people here just want a chance to stay with their loved ones and contribute to the economy. And that's where my argument was coming from, I can't applaud a deportation of a mother of 4 who has been here for 24 years, has a clean record and has payed her taxes.

I'm here because I'm a DACA recipient, and want to stay informed othe leaves news surrounding immigration as well as what people affected by these issues are saying.

But I'm assuming that with your question, you wanted more than a literal response, and instead were saying that my comment was inappropriate?

Honestly, I AM tired of people justifying ignorance. I think it goes hand in hand with why immigrant rights groups see us all as helpless beings that need saving and therefore won't support common sense reform that helps those who want to help themselves.

I'm tired of seeing pity cases (not specifically referring to this case) where and undocumented immigrant is being deported "simply for a DUI" or "simply for this crime" or "simply for that crime". Our parents (at least mine) knew the risks they were taking when they came to this country. We knew what risks we were incurring by staying here (no matter how unfair this was).

The immigration system isn't "broken". It's actually quite a liberal immigration system compared to the rest of the world. American just has particular immigration problem that arose from being next to a country with high levels of poverty and people figuring out the loopholes of of coming to into the country and living in the country. Every country and every system has loopholes, they just haven't been exposed to millions of people trying to figure them out over many years.

I slightly agree with the ignorance part. Some DREAMers in Facebook groups legitimately thought the Dream act passed already and some of them can barely speak English, 50% of the posts are all spanish. The others also one of those "CIR for all or nothing" type of protesters who fail to realize that without a comprinisr, we would be doomed. I'm not trying to bash them, but in order to move forward we have to stay educated.

We should come together as a community to help this women. She post no thread to society and is not a 'bad hombre' just like many of us.

Here is the real question you all just come to ignore. Why did she sign the voluntary deportation? Was she caught crossing, was she caught doing some criminal act? DUI? Does anyone know why ICE gave her a voluntary deportation?

Compared to the rest of the world, that is very true. There are much harsher laws for immigrants in other countries.