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Can we talk about how shitty Mexico and why white country's are not? - Page 2

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08-10-2017, 05:44 PM
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I've been living in Mexico for 6 years now. I find it waaaay better than living with DACA status. I go to the US a few times a year because I can. I can vote. I can get a work visa to many different countries, even the US.

I should probably go visit Canada just to tell you guys what it's like.
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08-10-2017, 05:49 PM
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I've been living in Mexico for 6 years now. I find it waaaay better than living with DACA status. I go to the US a few times a year because I can. I can vote. I can get a work visa to many different countries, even the US.

I should probably go visit Canada just to tell you guys what it's like.
Aren't you that DREAMer that self-deported before reaching 18 years of age? What city do you live in Mexico, bro and what schools/degrees are a gateway to attaining a work permit on a different country? I personally know one Mexican from UNAM who was an engineer who was able to move to England. Also, is it true that all the citizens there are uncivilized and uneducated who like their ways of living like many people think?
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08-10-2017, 05:56 PM
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Aren't you that DREAMes that self-deported before reaching 18 years of age? What city do you live in Mexico, bro and what schools/degrees are a gateway to attaining a work permit on a different country? I personally know one Mexican from UNAM who was an engineer who was able to move to England. Also, is it true that all the citizens there are uncivilized and uneducated who like their ways of living like many people think?
Mexicans with a degree, after Canadians, have the easiest time getting a work visa to the USA. Any degree will do as long as you can get a job offer.

**Edit:** Correction, this is a bit misleading, you do need your degree to be somewhat related to a whitelist of professions available for the visa. Here is more info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TN_status

For Europe or Canada, a degree is not really that necessary as long as the job is considered to be a skilled occupation.

I am a dropout and I am freelance software developers for US clients (I sometimes go to the US to meet them face to face).

I currently live in Guadalajara but I am going to move to Mexico City, specifically either the Condesa or Polanco neighborhoods. Mexico City is probably your best bet if you don't want to experience that strong of a culture shock. The Condesa neighborhood is filled with young Europeans so if diversity is something you want, you can go live there. It might be annoying if you dislike pretentious hipsters walking their expensive as fuck dogs.

Polanco is a bit more upscale.

AirBnB has decent guides of what to do in those neighborhoods:

https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/polanco
https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/condesa

However, if you don't have a decent salary to live in a decent neighborhood, Mexico City can suck. Decent being at least $1500 USD a month.
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08-10-2017, 06:04 PM
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Mexicans with a degree, after Canadians, have the easiest time getting a work visa to the USA. Any degree will do as long as you can get a job offer.

For Europe or Canada, a degree is not really that necessary as long as the job is considered to be a skilled occupation.

I am a dropout and I am freelance software developers for US clients (I sometimes go to the US to meet them face to face).

I currently live in Guadalajara but I am going to move to Mexico City, specifically either the Condesa or Polanco neighborhoods. Mexico City is probably your best bet if you don't want to experience that strong of a culture shock. The Condesa neighborhood is filled with young Europeans so if diversity is something you want, you can go live there. It might be annoying if you dislike pretentious hipsters walking their expensive as fuck dogs.

Polanco is a bit more upscale.

AirBnB has decent guides of what to do in those neighborhoods:

https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/polanco
https://www.airbnb.com/locations/mexico-city/condesa

However, if you don't have a decent salary to live in a decent neighborhood, Mexico City can suck. Decent being at least $1500 USD a month.
Interesting stuff, mate. I'm an 18-year-old who might have acquired the 3 year ban, I'm thinking of returning if DACA is repealed based on the lawsuit. Thank god, I'm Chilango haha but I'm from Villa Coapa which is poor and filled with daily robbings.

Are Monterrey or Morelia any good? And never really fathomed how easy it is for a Mexican citizen to obtain a work permit from USA because the waiting times for Mexico is so quick.

Thanks for the info, bro.
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08-10-2017, 06:09 PM
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Interesting stuff, mate. I'm an 18-year-old who might have acquired the 3 year ban, I'm thinking of returning if DACA is repealed based on the lawsuit. Thank god, I'm Chilango haha but I'm from Villa Coapa which is poor and filled with daily robbings.

Are Monterrey or Morelia any good? And never really fathomed how easy it is for a Mexican citizen to obtain a work permit from USA because the waiting times for Mexico is so quick.

Thanks for the info, bro.
Monterrey can be good as well I have heard (rent is much more affordable than Mexico City). Remember, there are good and bad neighborhoods in the big cities. Morelia I don't know much about, but the state where Morelia is located is a big NO. Don't go there unless you know what the fuck you are doing.

And yes, getting a work visa if your profession is on the NAFTA professions list is literally applying and then taking your job offer letter and your degree to the consulate for the visa. Then just wait a couple of weeks for the visa to be given to you. It's indefinitely renewable (in theory) and there are no requirements such as requiring the company to attempt to hire an American first.

The difference between Canadians and Mexicans is that Canadians don't need the visa, they just need to show up at the border and they are given work authorization on the spot if they meet the other requirements (valid profession and degree).
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08-10-2017, 06:22 PM
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Monterrey can be good as well I have heard (rent is much more affordable than Mexico City). Remember, there are good and bad neighborhoods in the big cities. Morelia I don't know much about, but the state where Morelia is located is a big NO. Don't go there unless you know what the fuck you are doing.

And yes, getting a work visa if your profession is on the NAFTA professions list is literally applying and then taking your job offer letter and your degree to the consulate for the visa. Then just wait a couple of weeks for the visa to be given to you. It's indefinitely renewable (in theory) and there are no requirements such as requiring the company to attempt to hire an American first.

The difference between Canadians and Mexicans is that Canadians don't need the visa, they just need to show up at the border and they are given work authorization on the spot if they meet the other requirements (valid profession and degree).
I assume that obtaining a work visa from Mexico for us DREAMers if you have a history of illegal presence will be quite a challenge though and it will be backlogged if more and more people apply but I think it might change with the Raise Act. Yes, I'm aware of Michocan's narco problem just like Sinaloa & Durango.

Will Mexicans look at you different if you were raised in the USA? It seems as if a lot of them are machistas and nationalists but not all of them. But, I also heard that you cannot flex money and expensive assets like you do in America. Is Puebla and southern Mexico any good too?
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08-10-2017, 06:26 PM
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I assume that obtaining a work visa from Mexico for us DREAMers if you have a history of illegal presence will be quite a challenge though and it will be backlogged if more and more people apply but I think it might change with the Raise Act. Yes, I'm aware of Michocan's narco problem just like Sinaloa & Durango.

Will Mexicans look at you different if you were raised in the USA? It seems as if a lot of them are machistas and nationalists but not all of them. But, I also heard that you cannot flex money and expensive assets like you do in America. Is Puebla and southern Mexico any good too?
There is no limit for that work visa so there is no backlog. As long as you don't have a ban, the illegal presence will not matter.

You might get teased a bit for your american accent but that's about it.

Southeast mexico (the peninsula) is one of the safest places in North America. I am not familiar with Puebla.

Look, I recommend that you only try Guadalajara, Monterrey, or Mexico City before considering other cities. Just so that you get eased into the culture a bit.
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08-10-2017, 06:30 PM
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There is no limit to that work visa so there is no backlog. As long as you don't have a ban, the illegal presence will not matter.

You might get teased a bit for your american accent but that's about it.

Southeast mexico (the peninsula) is one of the safest places in North America. I am not familiar with Puebla.

Look, I recommend that you only try Guadalajara, Monterrey, or Mexico City before considering other cities. Just so that you get eased into the culture a bit.
Looks like I have to wait 3 years them, fuck. Oh well, that's about the same time I can obtain a degree. Thanks for the information, bro, much success in your journey of obtaining a work permit in the states or Canada. You did something at an age that most DREAMers won't think twice of doing and succeeded.
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Looks like I have to wait 3 years them, fuck. Oh well, that's about the same time I can obtain a degree. Thanks for the information, bro, much success in your journey of obtaining a work permit in the states or Canada. You did something at an age that most DREAMers won't think twice of doing and succeeded.
I plan on staying in Mexico for a while. A lawyer has already told me I have a strong case for a work visa in the US, but I decided to stay put for now.
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Argentina is a white country. Are you telling me it's not shitty?

Look at Mexico. What race are the top political and most educated? White Mexicans. Who are the poorest and non educated the brown brown people of Mexico.

Seriously stop acting like there aren't white people in Mexico. All the political positions are run by white people in Latin America for the exemption of Bolivia and Peru.
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