How to Solve the Problem of #Fairness4Legals - Page 2

I'm sorry that I grew up in the United States with non-immigrant status when I've been here most of my life with no real choice of my own on the matter.

I'm not sure why you're being so condescending towards me for being stuck in non-immigrant status for over a decade when I couldn't do a thing about it. I guess I'll just have to leave the country I grew up in and go to some country I barely know about or be able to function in.

Ignore him.

This matter was actually examined, by a conservative think tank of all groups, with regards to the children of H-1B visa holders who turn 21 and age out while they waited.

The key difference between the two groups, i.e. what they call legal 'Dreamers' & unauthorized immigrant Dreamers, in relation to the present Dream Act (S.1615) being considered is the requirement that a person is one “who is inadmissible or deportable from the United States” (p. 4), that is, violated immigration law.

In others words, to qualify, legally one must be illegal.

To further underline this point, the bill specifically disqualifies those who violate the rules of a student vias - which is an option 'legal' Dreamers have that unauthorized Dreamers do not.

The author then goes on to make, I think, a rational and convincing case for the inclusion of such persons.

But politics is hardly rational. We both understand this as products of the consequences of a dysfunctional immigration system; after S.1615 is negotiated - if it even makes it to the floor - it might just apply to DACA recipients as a concession to Republicans voting on "amnesty", as a way of keeping the number of those being legalized down to a minimum.

It's as Swim stated, this bill and this forum, (alas!) is not for you.

https://www.cato.org/blog/dream-act-...grant-dreamers

Fairness to legals?!

What is next

More money to the rich?

Oh, no!
You are "desperately" finding a job?
Come on. get out of here, fool.

You have the option of finding a job and getting sponsored.
We do not have that option.

You have the option of leaving the country and coming back without a ban
We (most) do not have that option.

Most of us, like you do not get instate funding for school.

Many of us couldn't drive for the longest time (until DACA) came.
You could.

Many of couldn't even work until DACA came.
You could (If you found a job on campus - you said you are a student right?)

We live in the "shadows" everyday, some of us including our parents.
You don't.

You say that you've been waiting?
So have we.

Nothing is for sure yet. So why the horse shit?

I have to agree with the comments above.

It's unfair to state that we have not had to wait.

We're just the unlucky ones - enetered EWI, or aged out, I-485 pending with delayed response, no other way to adjust status and hit with 10 year bar.

We have waited long enough (certainly longer than 6 years) - maybe 3x that and more with uncertainty about our future.

I really hope something works out for you - but you can't say that DA is unfair to other immigrants.

Find an employer or marry a US Citizen then.

Many of us can only do the latter and some of us have to go through waivers or/and win removal proceedings to get there. You think I'm happy that I had to tie the knot at age 23 and then reopen an old removal order, and that I have an interview for I-130 this upcoming Monday? Not even an AOS interview, if I get denied I'm fucked and have no basis for getting rid of removal proceedings, if I get approved I still have to go to court in January and seek a termination, then an I-601A waiver (case with no kids), and then finally do DS-260 for an immigrant visa. My anti-anxiety medication prescription isn't generous enough for this.


I looked at the bill and it requires you to be inadmissible or deportable, and present in US for at least 4 years. If the current version passes you could technically fall out of status and apply for adjustment.

Believe me, there are people who would rather be in your position. The ban is one of the main issues which you don't have to deal with. There are people out there who, even if married to a USC, can't and will never be able to naturalize.

Look at all your options carefully, where there's a will there's a way; at least in your case.