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Central Americans and Haitians no longer need protected status, State Dept. says - Page 3

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#21
11-03-2017, 11:17 PM
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Haitains need to go home. self explanatory why. Please don't lump in the TEMPORARY protected status with DACA.
Its not about lumping them together, but about compassion. LIKE WHAT WERE ASKING FOR.
Also yes, they are completely different issues and we did not choose to come here.
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11-03-2017, 11:24 PM
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Illegal alien like you and I aren't meant to be here too, but is it the right thing to kick us out? It's not a black and white issue.
except we are...
this is the only place i've ever lived in.
since before i could even talk properly...
TPS people had a home before, they were given a temporary stay here, and now they're going back.
a lot of you people need to understand that not everything that happens can be beneficial to every single person.
some of you are probably older than me im sure, but still somehow think it's ok for us to be lumped in together with tps people and the like.
well it's not, because we're entirely two different cases.

stop equating us to people in entirely different situations from us.
this is not our hill to die on.
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11-03-2017, 11:29 PM
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Agree, no one was expecting an anti immigrant government. Now, thousands of lives are about to change for the worse
are you purposely being obtuse???
after obama you didn't think there was going to be backlash???
during trump's campaign trail you didn't think "Wow, americans are probably tired of the stupid immigration laws of the country"
how?

and how are these peoples' lives going to change so badly?
because they're going back to their country???
so you agree that there countries are in a really bad place, but you don't think they should go back and help it?
lol??
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11-03-2017, 11:57 PM
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except we are...
this is the only place i've ever lived in.
since before i could even talk properly...
TPS people had a home before, they were given a temporary stay here, and now they're going back.
a lot of you people need to understand that not everything that happens can be beneficial to every single person.
some of you are probably older than me im sure, but still somehow think it's ok for us to be lumped in together with tps people and the like.
well it's not, because we're entirely two different cases.

stop equating us to people in entirely different situations from us.
this is not our hill to die on.
This is not about lumping the issues together. They are separate issues. Why can't we have compassion for both situations? Why do we have to chose one over the other? Why can't we fight for TPS to be extended (which only requires USCIS action) and DREAM Act to be passed?

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are you purposely being obtuse???
after obama you didn't think there was going to be backlash???
during trump's campaign trail you didn't think "Wow, americans are probably tired of the stupid immigration laws of the country"
how?

and how are these peoples' lives going to change so badly?
because they're going back to their country???
so you agree that there countries are in a really bad place, but you don't think they should go back and help it?
lol??
You do realize these exact same arguments are being used about deporting DREAMers. (Why can't they go back to their home country and use the free education, skills they learned in the US? Help their birth country thrive).

And yes their lives will be tough. Some of them have been here for 20 years (there's no 'home' to go back to in their country of origin). Some of them have US Citizen children, US Citizen relatives. They have jobs, cars, and houses. This is a humanitarian issue.
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except we are...
this is the only place i've ever lived in.
since before i could even talk properly...
TPS people had a home before, they were given a temporary stay here, and now they're going back.
a lot of you people need to understand that not everything that happens can be beneficial to every single person.
some of you are probably older than me im sure, but still somehow think it's ok for us to be lumped in together with tps people and the like.
well it's not, because we're entirely two different cases.

stop equating us to people in entirely different situations from us.
this is not our hill to die on.
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Many TPS holders from El Salvador, Honduras, and Haiti came to the United States at a young age and have spent a significant portion of their life here. Salvadoran and Honduran TPS holders have, on average, spent at least a third of their lives on TPS. And, approximately 30 percent of Haitian TPS beneficiaries were 15 years old or younger when they arrived in the United States. This long-term settlement has allowed them to become active and contributing members of their communities and the nation as a whole.
https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-united-states
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Why can't we have compassion for both situations? Why can't we fight for TPS to be extended (which only requires USCIS action) and DREAM Act to be passed? I'm perfectly capable of understanding that both situations deserve compassion. These people are already here. They are part of the community.
because they're two entirely different situations.
and lumping us in with them just makes it that much harder for a permanent solution for us.
and we deserve far more compassion than TPS people, that goes without saying.

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You do realize these exact same arguments are being used about deporting DREAMers. (Why can't they go back to their home country and use the free education, skills they learned in the US?)
those arguments are made by uneducated people that are just looking for any reason to lump us in with their narrow minded view of undocumented people.
our home country is here. no one on here will tell you otherwise.
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And yes their lives will be tough. Some of them have been here for 20 years (there's no 'home' to go back to in their country of origin). Some of them have US Citizen children, US Citizen relatives. They have jobs, cars, and houses. This is a humanitarian issue.
this is not a humanitarian issue at all.
there has to be line drawn somewhere.
DACA is a humanitarian issue.
TPS stopped being a humanitarian issue a long time ago.
you even had the haitian government officials calling for their people to come back.
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LOL If anything, TPS is more legit than DACA.

I can't believe some DREAMErs have the nerve to say shit like DogJuiceMan.
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https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-united-states
30 percent.

you do know DACA benefits 700k or so people right???
now i'll ask you, what takes more presedence 700k people or 30 percent of 300k?.
please don't fail me.
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LOL If anything, TPS is more legit than DACA.

I can't believe some DREAMErs have the nerve to say shit like DogJuiceMan.
i'd love to hear your crazy ass explanation for this, please tell us.
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because they're two entirely different situations.
and lumping us in with them just makes it that much harder for a permanent solution for us.
and we deserve far more compassion than TPS people, that goes without saying.


those arguments are made by uneducated people that are just looking for any reason to lump us in with their narrow minded view of undocumented people.
our home country is here. no one on here will tell you otherwise.

this is not a humanitarian issue at all.
there has to be line drawn somewhere.
DACA is a humanitarian issue.
TPS stopped being a humanitarian issue a long time ago.
you even had the haitian government officials calling for their people to come back.
Who is lumping them together? TPS is not harming DACA in any way. Do any of the DREAM Act bills have TPS extension in them? No. Have you heard any senator say "I will only vote for DREAM Act bill if TPS is not extended?" No.

If you are allowed to be under TPS since 1998 - that's not temporary. I don't care what you call it.
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