Democrats would be crazy to reject Trump's DACA deal (Commentary / Opinion) - Page 3
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Originally Posted by IamAman
What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?
Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus. There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too. Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first. |
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What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?
Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus. There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too. Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first. |
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Originally Posted by catportal
You are incredibly naive if you believe that. Dems need the issue for elections and fundraising. Why does no one address the fact that in 2009 Dems had SUPER majority and the presidency? The DA was an already written bill, it would've taken literally 2 hours to get it passed in both chambers! They chose NOT to do it!
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Originally Posted by legodego
right?? some of these people never read the news and think about what has happened over the years. such near sighted and so ungrateful......
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What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?
Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus. There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too. Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first. |
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Originally Posted by legodego
who set up DACA and gave EADs to dreamers? Obama. Who made the pavement for legalization of dreamers? Obama did. its not that democrats could have. they coudlnt have. they obviously didnt have as much support as they do now and back then they wanted to take care of Americans first with obamacare. everything has a timing and you cannot ignore the amount of effort put into dreamers and daca from the democrats
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Originally Posted by TechnoElectro
Just wanted to add, who ended daca? republicans. Who has continuously stopped DREAM act from passing for over a decade? republicans. Who wants to deport all "illegal immigrants"?republicans.
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''We are going to listen to the American people, and we are going to get a bill that is right,'' Dennis Hastert - Circa 2006 regarding the senate passed CIR
another house speaker who refused to bring a CIR up for vote and look at this, Mr Hastert happened to be a Republican
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I personally knew that if he wins he's not going to be touching DACA.
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I hope Trump wins second term.
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What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?
Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus. There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too. Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first. |
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