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Bipartian Dreamer Finally gets air time. lmfao - Page 5

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02-11-2018, 10:10 AM
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Why you guys are ripping this guy, he’s over here playing 4D chess. Trump loves to be praised.
Having Stockholm Syndrome isn't playing 4d chess.

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you all know that if the Senate had a strong majority of 55-56 Republicans that this issue would have an end. we already know the Goodlatte bill's 3 yr status for us isnt gonna fly, Trump already endorsed a path to citizenship for us.

i know there would be closure if there was a majority of the GOP. atleast we can move on with our lives here or somewhere else, so just let the Dems step aside for now and let the GOP do what they want with us.

and before you Dem shills attack me, no i am not Republican. you shills should take responsibility for your life choices and be a pragmatist on the issue that affects your lives daily, just like the guy in the vid. i dont like how hes deepthroating Trump, but he had the balls to go on Fox and engage the other side.

maybe the blind Dem shills here should take responsibility for their actions, instead of putting their lives, hopes and dreams in the hands of a specific political party.
I give the guy credit, but it's hard to engage a side that has a different set of facts. I've seen Fox News report something that is later to shown to be inaccurate (which happens to all news organization), but Fox rarely makes a real effort to inform its viewers that the information first reported was false. If this guy truly believes Trump is a 'great President' then I worry. If it is to play the game, I'm fine with that.
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02-11-2018, 10:30 AM
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I give the guy credit, but it's hard to engage a side that has a different set of facts. I've seen Fox News report something that is later to shown to be inaccurate (which happens to all news organization), but Fox rarely makes a real effort to inform its viewers that the information first reported was false. If this guy truly believes Trump is a 'great President' then I worry. If it is to play the game, I'm fine with that.
Yeah, this is where I think he took it a little too far. But, let's be honest. Anyone willing to negotiate at all is being categorized as a sell out by people on the far left. So, at this point, what difference does it make.
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I give the guy credit, but it's hard to engage a side that has a different set of facts. I've seen Fox News report something that is later to shown to be inaccurate (which happens to all news organization), but Fox rarely makes a real effort to inform its viewers that the information first reported was false. If this guy truly believes Trump is a 'great President' then I worry. If it is to play the game, I'm fine with that.
Same shit happens in the liberal media.
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Same shit happens in the liberal media.
So far I've seen the liberal media correct mistakes they make, and I can't say the same for the far right media. This idea that both sides are equally bad is why we have Trump. There is a better choice.
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So far I've seen the liberal media correct mistakes they make, and I can't say the same for the far right media. This idea that both sides are equally bad is why we have Trump. There is a better choice.
Independent.
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So far I've seen the liberal media correct mistakes they make, and I can't say the same for the far right media. This idea that both sides are equally bad is why we have Trump. There is a better choice.
It's not an idea, it's the truth.
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Independent.
Independent is the way to go, but I personally agree with Democrats on most policies. I think the Democrats are terrible at messaging and don't always fight as they should, but I do agree with their policies.
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This is what having no self-respect looks like. I completely agree with the democrats having to compromise because we are always portrayed as UWD dreamers who still believe a clean dream act is possible and seem to lack understanding of basic politics. I am not here for the Trump praise though, Trump is playing with our lives to get what he wants and as much as the democrats can use us for political purposes they would have never cancelled DACA.
I feel torn about this because YES, democrats would have never cancelled DACA and conservatives are the lowest life form to me but rescinding DACA has turned America's eyes to Dreamers, an easy to ignore population. Trump et. al, unfortunately for them, gave us the publicity of a lifetime. Nobody cared when the Dream Act was being voted on year after year. We faced that disappointment alone many-a-times. Before September 5th, most of the country didn't even know what DACA was. Even though we're in limbo I almost feel safter than I ever was because I know a lot of people are outraged about what's going on with us. That's the thing about when Democrats are in power; they're not really accomplishing much for oppressed people yet progressive voters feel like they have a civic engagement hall pass because "their guys" are holding it down. I'm not sure if it would have been in our best interest to just have quietly kept DACA and stayed out of public discourse the way we would have had Democrats been in charge. Time will tell.
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