Immigration Debate To Start As A Jump Ball In The Senate

Ianus · 02-12-2018, 11:09 AM

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/12/58506...-in-the-senate

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The Senate is set to start debate Monday afternoon on immigration, launching an unusual process that could lead to a bipartisan immigration fix — or leave Congress with no solution for the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who stand to lose legal protections by March 5.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., will open the unpredictable path with a Senate vote on unrelated legislation. The goal is for the Senate to vote on immigration proposals and amendments from every corner of the political spectrum. Anything that can get 60 votes will pass, everything else will fall by the wayside.

"Whoever gets to 60 wins," McConnell told reporters at a news conference on Feb. 6. He added, "There's no secret plan here to try to push this in any direction. The Senate is going to work its will, and I hope that we will end up passing something."

Many in Congress have been craving such an open debate because it will give senators to a chance to put their concepts and proposals to the ultimate legislative test. The plan carries a significant political risk that none of the ideas will have enough votes to pass, leaving Congress unable to fulfill their pledge to protect the roughly 700,000 people enrolled in the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, or DACA. The Trump administration's decision to end DACA, which offers protections for immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, is currently caught in a court battle.

"We're going to have something in the Senate that we haven't had in a while," said Sen. Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday. "It's a real debate on an issue where we really don't know what the outcome is going to be."

The outcome is particularly uncertain because the Senate debate is just the start of a longer process of passing an immigration package. House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., has not yet said how the House will proceed beyond promising to vote on an immigration bill, so long as it has the support of President Trump.

That promise has Democrats and other critics worried that the House could block whatever the Senate is able to pass. Ryan addressed those critics last week, telling reporters that he plans to hold a vote on immigration.

"To anyone who doubts my intention to solve this problem and bring up a DACA and immigration reform bill, do not," Ryan said. "We will bring a solution to the floor, one the president will sign."

The White House has not weighed in on any of the legislative options, but Trump has insisted that any immigration bill also include funding for a wall along U.S. border with Mexico.

Now we watch closely for amendments and IF the Senate can maintain a 60 vote coalition on amendments.

PhelonOne87 · 02-12-2018, 11:29 AM

MessiD10s · 02-12-2018, 11:32 AM

May God be with us ��

vander · 02-12-2018, 11:48 AM

Please.... please

Dude · 02-12-2018, 11:56 AM

60 votes in the Senate isn't enough. If the House doesn't like it, they just don't bring it up for a vote and it's dead.
It's the House where we have watch for what will pass, because senators answer to the whole state, but house reps (specially GOP) respond to their "gerrymandered constituents", which makes their electorate mostly republican and very little of a mix.

fl_dreamer · 02-12-2018, 12:01 PM

Take the bill Trump proposed. It is very reasonable IF chain migration is limited to us (Dreamers) not being able to sponsor till we are citizens. I am also one of the few who thinks one should not be able to sponsor while they are on a GC (even those who came in legally). Only citizens should be able to sponsor. Plenty countries where this is a rule. Let all citizens sponsor and more towards merit based immigration system.

dreamer__13 · 02-12-2018, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_dreamer

Take the bill Trump proposed. It is very reasonable IF chain migration is limited to us (Dreamers) not being able to sponsor till we are citizens. I am also one of the few who thinks one should not be able to sponsor while they are on a GC (even those who came in legally). Only citizens should be able to sponsor. Plenty countries where this is a rule. Let all citizens sponsor and more towards merit based immigration system.

In other words, compromise and change the rules for LPRs only? To me that sounds good.

fl_dreamer · 02-12-2018, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamer__13

In other words, compromise and change the rules for LPRs only? To me that sounds good.

Yup! Why should someone who is not a citizen have rights to sponsor?! Makes no sense.

People with left propaganda may not respond to this message. There is no point in conversing with you and your "life should be fair" mindset.

Busybee · 02-12-2018, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_dreamer

Take the bill Trump proposed. It is very reasonable IF chain migration is limited to us (Dreamers) not being able to sponsor till we are citizens. I am also one of the few who thinks one should not be able to sponsor while they are on a GC (even those who came in legally). Only citizens should be able to sponsor. Plenty countries where this is a rule. Let all citizens sponsor and more towards merit based immigration system.

I second this! a fair immigration change would be to limit sponsorship to just US citizens. Do you know how much would this reduce legal immigration? I know the change Trump wants would slash legal immigration by almost half.

catportal · 02-12-2018, 12:52 PM

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