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03-01-2018, 03:27 AM
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My Canadian PR visa expires within a month. Have been hopeful of some dreamer relief by March. My family resides here and the 10 yr bar is what scares me the most. Very tough decision and little time left to make one. I can renew my DACA here but I'm thankful for the Canadian opportunity as well. Things here seem to be too prolonged with no clear picture...

What would you guys suggest?
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03-01-2018, 03:41 AM
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If I were you, I would go to Canada. Can someone with info on the 10 yr bar clarify how they enforce the bar?
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03-01-2018, 04:20 AM
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If I were you, I would go to Canada. Can someone with info on the 10 yr bar clarify how they enforce the bar?
Can't apply for a visa for 10 years.
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03-01-2018, 04:28 AM
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Can't apply for a visa for 10 years.
But how do they know someone was illegally present? For example, my parents were never fingerprinted when they entered the US (they came here 17 years ago) and the US doesn't record people when they leave the US. How would they be able to tell if my parents were to leave and apply for a visa?

Also OP, you could always spend three years as a Canadian PR and then apply for citizenship. Canadian citizens don't need to apply for a visa to enter the United States.
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But how do they know someone was illegally present? For example, my parents were never fingerprinted when they entered the US (they came here 17 years ago) and the US doesn't record people when they leave the US. How would they be able to tell if my parents were to leave and apply for a visa?

Also OP, you could always spend three years as a Canadian PR and then apply for citizenship. Canadian citizens don't need to apply for a visa to enter the United States.


Because there are footprints such as your siblings birth if you have any, bank acoounts, tax payments, state i.ds so on
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But how do they know someone was illegally present? For example, my parents were never fingerprinted when they entered the US (they came here 17 years ago) and the US doesn't record people when they leave the US. How would they be able to tell if my parents were to leave and apply for a visa?

Also OP, you could always spend three years as a Canadian PR and then apply for citizenship. Canadian citizens don't need to apply for a visa to enter the United States.
You applied for DACA, your name and your home country passport is already in the system.

If you came in via some kind of visa like B1, B2, F1, and whatnot, you need to go back to your home country and apply for visa from the US Embassy. Guess what? Your record is there too.

If you came in by riding a horse in the middle of the night, and you have never applied for any immigration reliefs, there is no bar. You are welcome to apply for a visa from your home country. Of course, unless your home country has free visa deal with USA, those years you have been in US means you have no income in your home country, which means you cannot apply for a visa. So yes, you are fucked. Basically, you are fucked. Like real fucked.
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You applied for DACA, your name and your home country passport is already in the system.

If you came in via some kind of visa like B1, B2, F1, and whatnot, you need to go back to your home country and apply for visa from the US Embassy. Guess what? Your record is there too.

If you came in by riding a horse in the middle of the night, and you have never applied for any immigration reliefs, there is no bar. You are welcome to apply for a visa from your home country. Of course, unless your home country has free visa deal with USA, those years you have been in US means you have no income in your home country, which means you cannot apply for a visa. So yes, you are fucked. Basically, you are fucked. Like real fucked.
Okay. I mean, I’m luckier than others on here because I’ve had DACA since I was a minor so if I did leave, I would not be subject to a bar. But my parents entered on a tourist visa and then tried to immigrate with an L1. Their visa was rejected a long time ago and they just decided to stay here. So far, no removal orders. No attempts to be paroled. They’ve had no interactions with USCIS since their rejections. And they have money/passive income in their home country. I was asking because if they decided to just buy a plane ticket to their home country today and just went back and then applied for a tourist visa to the US, how would USCIS know that they had living in the US for all that time?
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My Canadian PR visa expires within a month. Have been hopeful of some dreamer relief by March. My family resides here and the 10 yr bar is what scares me the most. Very tough decision and little time left to make one. I can renew my DACA here but I'm thankful for the Canadian opportunity as well. Things here seem to be too prolonged with no clear picture...

What would you guys suggest?
That's a tough decision. I would lean towards going to Canada, but it's a very personal decision and we don't know your full situation.
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I would kill for such an opportunity.
You can finally have a normal life and travel and not have to worry about what Trump tweets for 3 years.
If you don't like it after 3 years you can come back.
Three years is nothing in comparison to the years you have suffered here.
Also, you should consider your age because I believe after 30 years old it becomes more difficult to get express entry.
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That's a tough decision. I would lean towards going to Canada, but it's a very personal decision and we don't know your full situation.
Agreed. There could be a lot of other things to consider and OP the only thing I can suggest, is that you make an informed decision. It's the little things that will make your life comfortable there.
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