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#61
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i dont support Democrats or Republicans, idgaf about all of that political BS. i support myself.

if that was your position why were u just calling for Dream Act a month ago? its all 11 million undocumented population or bust.

at this point, everyone should be considering other options... you' dont want to stay illegal forever.

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Progressive reality: both sides play the same game.

10.2 million don't have Daca. Others with children or dependants have a lot at stake at this moment. Aged out Dreamers with careers, and families. Soon the debate will shift to them. It's not only about Daca. If you have Daca, you have two years to keep supporting Democrats. Right now, right here, others without are tbe ones at actual risk.
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Bro,

He is not going to get impeached. Chances are he will get re-elected. That is a very possible option.

Let's say we all end up with nothing and Trump gets re-elected. What then? Using leverage still isn't an option?

It's funny. A lot of the progressive Democrats think like the The Yong Turks, whom you just labelled extremists. The progressive ones will fight for you--not the establishment democrats.
1) If Dems did what you want them to do? You know, have "balls"? Trump re-election was definitely going to be the result. I do like how you keep glossing over the fact that Dems' approval rating were nosediving the moment they shut the gov't down for DACA. I guess it's just not convenient enough for your "Dems don't do shit for us. Let's fuck 'em and get the GOP in there instead" narrative.

2) Progs (they are not Democrats) like this one? Look for a certain current attorney general's special appearance at the end, supporting what the Progs' Lord and Savior has to say about immigrants.
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I am not supporting Trump.

All I am saying is we need more progressives like the Young Turks in congress to use leverage because the establishment ones will not do shit.
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1) If Dems did what you want them to do? You know, have "balls"? Trump re-election was definitely going to be the result. I do like how you keep glossing over the fact that Dems' approval rating were nosediving the moment they shut the gov't down for DACA. I guess it's just not convenient enough for your "Dems don't do shit for us. Let's fuck 'em and get the GOP in there instead" narrative.

2) Progs (they are not Democrats) like this one? Look for a certain current attorney general's special appearance at the end, supporting what the Progs' Lord and Savior has to say about immigrants.
You are nothing more than an illegal to the corporate, establishment Democrats bro. Really. You need to wake up.

Trump and Republicans are more to blame, but the corporate Democrats are also screwing you over.

I am willing to guarantee most immigrants activists agree with this^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Right now..
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Thanks alot useless central americans. They just fucked all of us over. Thanks alot my useless mexican government. Why not just let anyone invade my country. You are not a country if you cant protect your borders.

Just annex those shithole countries since any of their citizens can invade into my shithole nation. At least for once we an share useless government.

And especially shame on the useless border agents for not summoning the army to repel this invasion.
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I understand what the filibuster is, but can you guarantee me we can have 60+ pro dream act seats after the midterms? We won't; That will not happen soon; ever.

THEY WILL HAVE TO USE LEVERAGE AT SOME POINT DUDE.
You keep ignoring this key fact: Dems are NOT in a position of power. What you think is a solve-all "leverage" was shutting the government down over an agenda, and the moment that happened the narrative shifted to America vs. Dreamers.

Which do you think is more likely; Dems with majority (meaning they get to SET AGENDAS) getting a couple moderate GOP in blue/purple states to tag onto Dream Act, or Republicans with majority magically/voluntarily bringing up Dream Act and incite the Freedom Caucus revolt/primary challenges, because it's the "right thing to do"?
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Approval rating based on what? the polls? Weren't there also polls that Trump and Republicans would be more to blame. You are only their soiled underwear who provides a cover up for the establishment democrats.
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the blame game from you guys is getting old tbh.
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I am not supporting Trump.

All I am saying is we need more progressives like the Young Turks in congress to use leverage because the establishment ones will not do shit.
There are some Democrats that show a lot of similarity with republicans and they need to be called out.

As far as party goes Republicans will not do anything for dreamers, only Democrats will help us.

FUCK TRUMP AND ANYBODY THAT SPEAKS POSITEVELY AOUT HIM.
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You keep ignoring this key fact: Dems are NOT in a position of power. What you think is a solve-all "leverage" was shutting the government down over an agenda, and the moment that happened the narrative shifted to America vs. Dreamers.

Which do you think is more likely; Dems with majority (meaning they get to SET AGENDAS) getting a couple moderate GOP in blue/purple states to tag onto Dream Act, or Republicans with majority magically/voluntarily bringing up Dream Act and incite the Freedom Caucus revolt/primary challenges, because it's the "right thing to do"?
Yeah, surely something will happen, and they will fight for us like they did when they had a majority in congress. Sure thing bro.
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