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House GOP immigration talks hung up over legal status for Dreamers - Page 2

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06-05-2018, 08:52 PM
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I'm from Mexico and I say that a wall on the southern border is the most humane thing to do. It is horrific what happens to migrants on their way to the united states.

Evil personnel stand at the gates ready to cause harm.

If the Migrants wish to stay in Mexico, they have my blessing to do so. I cannot be the hypocrite who stays in another nation, and wants undocs thrown out of my homeland.
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I mean they're getting rid of visa lottery, chain migration, sanctuary cities and implementing e-verify, tough interior enforcement and trumps wall.. what else they want ?
Giving e-verify for just the dreamers is a terrible idea. It should be part of comprehensive immigration reform or another path that gives adjustable visas to current undocumented population. If e-verify is implemented, it pretty much screws over the rest of the 11 million that are not dreamers; including our parents.
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i really have to question you people's knowledge on these things when you think that the house will agree to a bill legalizing 1.8 million people in exchange for just the wall.
they'd be reluctant to even legalizing 700k of us let alone almost 2 million.
best chances of a deal passing are GC status for the 800k daca'ers in exchange for full wall funding, ending DV lottery, and some light reforms to chain migration.
Oh I am 100% for getting rid of this stupid DV lottery too AND end to this bullshit chain migration of cousins and distant relatives. But I think the latter would be a wisely done later on. These Democrats will never agree to it right now. For now I think they can get rid of the DV lottery along with implementing strong border security and I mean FULLY fund that damn wall in exchange for green cards for dreamers.

Full Border Wall/Security is a pretty big item you may be underestimating. If I was trump I would kick Miller out of the window and latch on to this deal and save the chain migration battle for another day.
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i really have to question you people's knowledge on these things when you think that the house will agree to a bill legalizing 1.8 million people in exchange for just the wall.
they'd be reluctant to even legalizing 700k of us let alone almost 2 million.
best chances of a deal passing are GC status for the 800k daca'ers in exchange for full wall funding, ending DV lottery, and some light reforms to chain migration.
Call me a cynic but I find it a suspicious coincidence that what you think is the best solution just happens to benefit you and only you and others in your exact situation.
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Oh I am 100% for getting rid of this stupid DV lottery too AND end to this bullshit chain migration of cousins and distant relatives. .
Can you please enlighten us with which family preference is currently supporting "cousins and distant relatives"?
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Oh I am 100% for getting rid of this stupid DV lottery too AND end to this bullshit chain migration of cousins and distant relatives. But I think the latter would be a wisely done later on. These Democrats will never agree to it right now. For now I think they can get rid of the DV lottery along with implementing strong border security and I mean FULLY fund that damn wall in exchange for green cards for dreamers.

Full Border Wall/Security is a pretty big item you may be underestimating. If I was trump I would kick Miller out of the window and latch on to this deal and save the chain migration battle for another day.
i think that other day will be probably end up being soon anyway.
that's gonna be a central part of his campaign in 2020, trust me.
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Call me a cynic but I find it a suspicious coincidence that what you think is the best solution just happens to benefit you and only you and others in your exact situation.
no, i didn't say it was the best solution, i've repeatedly stated that it's the one that has the most chances of passing.
but do tell me what you think the best solution is .

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Can you please enlighten us with which family preference is currently supporting "cousins and distant relatives"?
immigrant A arrives in the US, whether through bullshit like DV or an H1-B visa.
that immigrant sponsors his parent, immigrant B.
immigrant B then sponsors his brother, immigrant C
immigrant C is the uncle of the original person allowed here.
and then immigrant C sponsors his children.
this is what people mean by chain migration.
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no, i didn't say it was the best solution, i've repeatedly stated that it's the one that has the most chances of passing.
but do tell me what you think the best solution is .


immigrant A arrives in the US, whether through bullshit like DV or an H1-B visa.
that immigrant sponsors his parent, immigrant B.
immigrant B then sponsors his brother, immigrant C
immigrant C is the uncle of the original person allowed here.
and then immigrant C sponsors his children.
this is what people mean by chain migration.

It takes Immigrant A 5 years (best case scenario if they immediately get a green card upon immigrating to the US) until they’re able to sponsor their parents for green cards. It takes 5 more years before the parents of Immigrant A (Immigrants B) can file to sponsor their siblings. The waiting period for this is 12-17 years I believe. This means that it takes 22-27 years before uncles, aunts and cousins can even get green cards.

Now don’t get me wrong. I want family reunification to end. But my reasons are different. It is an outdated system and a deceptively racist one that was designed to display that the US was welcoming of non white people while still attempting to maintain the racial demographics of the 1960s (Hart Celler was passed when almost all immigrants to the US were white). The crap about distant relatives is overblown and is merely an excuse. Trump, Miller and the Republicans want to end it because it’s mission failed. Because the few people from non white countries that got in through merit based channels are now taking advantage of a system that wasn’t designed with them in mind. Believe me if most immigrants taking advantage of family reunification were white, the word chain migration wouldn’t exist.
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It takes Immigrant A 5 years (best case scenario if they immediately get a green card upon immigrating to the US) until they’re able to sponsor their parents for green cards. It takes 5 more years before the parents of Immigrant A (Immigrants B) can file to sponsor their siblings. The waiting period for this is 12-17 years I believe. This means that it takes 22-27 years before uncles, aunts and cousins can even get green cards.

Now don’t get me wrong. I want family reunification to end. But my reasons are different. It is an outdated system and a deceptively racist one that was designed to display that the US was welcoming of non white people while still attempting to maintain the racial demographics of the 1960s (Hart Celler was passed when almost all immigrants to the US were white). The crap about distant relatives is overblown and is merely an excuse. Trump, Miller and the Republicans want to end it because it’s mission failed. Because the few people from non white countries that got in through merit based channels are now taking advantage of a system that wasn’t designed with them in mind. Believe me if most immigrants taking advantage of family reunification were white, the word chain migration wouldn’t exist.
this has been going on for too long, it doesn't matter just how long it might take for it, it's still a problem that needs to end. it's not overblown at all, there's countless examples of these things.
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