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GOP immigration compromise faces more hurdles in House

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The House Republican plan to vote on two immigration proposals next week is missing a key component: the second bill.

For weeks, Republican leaders have been coordinating closed-door meetings in search of a partisan compromise that satisfies both the centrist reformers and the conservative immigration hawks in their restive conference.

But a deal remains elusive, and the negotiators are running out of time to forge an agreement that would ramp up immigration enforcement and provide legal protections to so-called Dreamers - all while conforming to the "four pillars" approach demanded by President Trump.

The stubborn impasse threatens to undermine the GOP's message - crucial to some Republicans facing tough reelections this year - that they're serious about shielding Dreamers from deportation by salvaging the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, which Trump wants to wind down.

The race for an agreement ahead of next week's planned votes is just the latest challenge facing Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a lame-duck Speaker whose efforts to keep immigration off the House floor this election year were foiled by the same centrist lawmakers he's now trying to rally behind a compromise proposal.

All sides of the debate are expressing confidence they'll get a deal, even as they acknowledge significant differences.

"I think we're going to nail down some final negotiations," said Rep. Jeff Denham (R-Calif.), an immigration reformer facing a tough reelection in November. "We have come a long way to working together."

Rep. Mark Meadows (R-N.C.), the chairman of the far-right House Freedom Caucus, has warned that there's plenty of work remaining to reach an agreement. He predicted, however, that the kinks could be ironed out by early next week.

Aside from the evolving compromise bill, Republican leaders also want to vote next week on a hard-line bill proposed by Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.). Both bills are expected to adhere to Trump's four pillars, and the White House, through senior adviser Stephen Miller, endorsed both approaches Wednesday.

According to a draft of the Republican deal reviewed by The Hill, it would strongly entice Congress to fund a physical wall at the border by withholding permanent residency for DACA recipients in years when lawmakers deny funds for Trump's cornerstone campaign promise.

This could mean that Dreamers would be stuck in a nonimmigrant status - a temporary, renewable work permit - in years that Congress did not appropriate money for the wall, or if a future president decided to channel those funds elsewhere.

The question of citizenship rights - who should get them, and how - has been another sticking point.

Rep. Carlos Curbelo (R-Fla.), one of the leaders of the centrist effort, said negotiators had considered two options to provide Dreamers a path toward legal status, but were increasingly leaning toward one of those options.

"It doesn't exclude other groups, but all Dreamers who can qualify for the DACA program as it's delineated today will have the possibility to seek or apply to an immigrant visa, which would permit them to enter in the legal immigration system and eventually, if they so wish, to seek citizenship," said Curbelo.

According to the draft, that option would create a visa for DACA-eligible Dreamers, as well as for other immigrants who arrived in the country illegally as minors, but do not currently have their own pathway to citizenship, such as the grown children of foreign nationals on temporary work or investor visas.

Upon enactment of the law, the DACA population would be granted a six-year permit to live and work in the United States that could be indefinitely renewed but that would not lead to citizenship or count as permanent residency.

The bill also calls for the cancellation of the diversity visa lottery program and to channel its 55,000 yearly visas to the new program.

Over the first five years of the law, those 55,000 yearly permanent visas would be put aside.

After five years, Dreamers and children of temporary visa recipients would be allowed to start applying for the green cards that had been put away on a merit-based system.

The visas would continue to be granted at 55,000 per year until all DACA-eligible Dreamers had been processed and then the visas would be discontinued, according to the draft.

Curbelo said moderates are trying to maintain legal immigration levels.

"Some visas may be shifted towards employment visas, but our goal is to not cut legal immigration," he said.

Still, the move to eliminate the diversity visa lottery and reallocate its visas, an issue Republicans unanimously agreed upon last week, is sure to rankle Democrats.

"You can't rob Peter to pay Paul," said Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.).

It's unclear if either the Goodlatte proposal or the moderate alternative will win enough support to pass the House, let alone the Senate.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has warned that the Goodlatte bill, because it cuts even legal levels of immigration, would hurt businesses, likely eroding support from moderate Republicans who are already balking at the bill. And conservatives are widely expected to vote en masse against the compromise bill.

Passing the compromise, said Rep. Ryan Costello (R-Pa.), is "going to be dependent on whether the Democrats support the compromise."

"The conservative members on the Republican side ... I doubt they'll vote for the compromise," he said. "They're just going to want to vote for Goodlatte."


http://thehill.com/homenews/house/39...in-house?amp=1
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Will highlight the important stuff later.

So seems like Dems are being put into a corner.

I hope enough "blue dogs" (conservative Dems in the House) vote for it. There are 18 blue dogs so if they vote for the bill plus a dozen commonsense Dems, it could makr up for most Freedom Caucus members not supporting it
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This could mean that Dreamers would be stuck in a nonimmigrant status - a temporary, renewable work permit - in years that Congress did not appropriate money for the wall, or if a future president decided to channel those funds elsewhere.
This is worrisome. If this passes, I will wish Trump stays in office for the second term just to make sure everyone gets their GC lol

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After five years, Dreamers and children of temporary visa recipients would be allowed to start applying for the green cards that had been put away on a merit-based system.
Guess we will be competing for spots with non-Dacas as well
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Excellent!! Including the fact of highlighting the important facts later!!
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This is worrisome. If this passes, I will wish Trump stays in office for the second term just to make sure everyone gets their GC lol



Guess we will be competing for spots with non-Dacas as well
there wouldn't be many non DACAs, and if they eliminate F1,F3 and F4 family category and free up 162k visa each year it will give all 1.8 million Dreamers Green Card in 11 years. they can then move these to merit based or for the CIR down the road under a Democrat President.
DemocRats shouldn't obstruct when they were ready to rob it from Paul and give it to Peter in 2013 CIR. bunch of hypocrites who want to keep this issue alive for their vote bank politics.
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DACA deal in final stages: 'Crossing the Ts'

In addition to the speaker relaying the President's support, Trump aide Stephen Miller, a hardliner on immigration policy, stopped by the conservative Republican Study Committee's lunch Wednesday on Capitol Hill to try and build support for the immigration compromise that is being put together.

His message, according to a person in the room, was that the administration supports both the conservative bill lead authored by Rep. Bob Goodlatte -- which is the more conservative option but is not expected to have enough votes to pass -- but is also open to the the compromise bill that is taking shape right now.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/13/p...ion/index.html
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DACA deal in final stages: 'Crossing the Ts'

In addition to the speaker relaying the President's support, Trump aide Stephen Miller, a hardliner on immigration policy, stopped by the conservative Republican Study Committee's lunch Wednesday on Capitol Hill to try and build support for the immigration compromise that is being put together.

His message, according to a person in the room, was that the administration supports both the conservative bill lead authored by Rep. Bob Goodlatte -- which is the more conservative option but is not expected to have enough votes to pass -- but is also open to the the compromise bill that is taking shape right now.

https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/13/p...ion/index.html
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text of the draft.

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The 25 billion dollars DO NOT HAVE TO BE USED ONLY FOR THE WALL. Hearing from local reps' staff that they will divert funds to round up people and the administration hardliners have filed requests for more detention centers. This language is straight from the Goodlatte bill and is meant as a runaround for more detention and deportations.

Not happening. File the discharge petition. A Democratic government will not allow this money to be used this way.

We have a lot of retirements happening this year and with them loss of votes. The discharge petition is the only way to help all Dreamers and it will succeed. The only goal Ryan has is to prevent an actual permanent solution for Dreamers.
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The 25 billion dollars DO NOT HAVE TO BE USED ONLY FOR THE WALL. Hearing from local reps' staff that they will divert funds to round up people and the administration hardliners have filed requests for more detention centers. This language is straight from the Goodlatte bill and is meant as a runaround for more detention and deportations.

Not happening. File the discharge petition. A Democratic government will not allow this money to be used this way.

We have a lot of retirements happening this year and with them loss of votes. The discharge petition is the only way to help all Dreamers and it will succeed. The only goal Ryan has is to prevent an actual permanent solution for Dreamers.
A discharge petition will not get Trump's signature and it will not be called to the Senate floor for a vote, so are you saying you want a symbolic bill to pass the house that helps no one?
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