Man charged with killing Mollie Tibbetts is an undocumented immigrant - Page 5

For those of you implying "they hurt us and don't care so why should we care when they're hurt?" kinda mentality is the wrong approach. Two wrongs will never make a right.

How do you know?

She was a liberal Democrat based on her Twitter feed. She supported Bernie Sanders, was pro-choice, joked about Trump, and most likely supported the cause of Dreamers/DACA based on these previous descriptions.

I get what you're trying to say, it works in an idealistic world. Unfortunately, diversity (which is a great thing) - you cannot have everyone 100% agree on what is right and what is wrong.

We need to point out here that if you want to be taken seriously, you'd probably want to avoid arguments that include 'always', 'never', and 'forever' - It's invertible that they will stray away from their near perfect consistencies and again, we are assuming perfect exist. I am not saying this is you, but if you want to catch a liar, make a mental note of when they use those words. Chances are you are catching them in a lie. Listen to Mr Trump and you will see that this is a good indicator (not perfect) of when he is lying.

You can’t live with out your girlfriend because she’s young and beautiful? So this only matters because Mollie was young and beautiful but had she been any less she wouldn’t had matter at all.

You are arguing for the sake of arguing at this point.

As soon as I found out he was an illegal immigrant I knew this was going to be spinned to an ANTI DACA propaganda.

I want to separate the murder case from the media coverage because if we don't then we get into weird comments about her attractiveness and youth.... IDK what this thread has devolved into...

But, here is what I will say about media coverage and why DOES matter.

Some are saying "this is no big deal! The media cares about Cohen/Manafort. The only people that are focusing on this case and his citizenship are Fox News."

EXACTLY! Trump voters, by and large, are not watching CNN. They are watching Fox. The case is being used to deflect attention from the Cohen/Manafort cases AND demonize undocumented immigrants. And why by and large our little liberal bubbles are not focusing on the guy's status, others outside of it are. Look at Fox News and Breitbart. These are no longer fringe media sources, but rather media machines that helped elect Trump. We don't need the support of CNN liberals for immigration reform (of any kind). We have it anyway. We need the support of staunch opposers who have been blocking it for decades. And this case does nothing to help our case. It riles up those opposers and even gets some of those who were previously ambivalent toward undocumented immigrants pissed off. You have to understand them a little bit too. Think about it, if you were the parents of this girl, wouldn't you be incredibly pissed and angry?

Yeah that sounds like a good idea.


What do you have in mind, in terms of a plan, to change the mind of Fox News and Breitbart viewers?

ALSO, I will add one more thing...

I admit that I sound like a total loony conspiracy theorists, but how weird is it that this case of a missing girl in the American heartland, Trump's base, has dragged on for so long. And it just so happens that they find the body AND the murderer yesterday, just a few days after a very public visit by VP Mike Pence, and at the same time of the Cohen/Manafort bombshells........

Am I crazy for even thinking this is all very weird?

IDK man, I'm just a dude on a message board.

I will say that not killing people is a good first fucking step.