Democrats blocked from including immigration reform in spending bill - Page 3

Originally Posted by txgirl

So what now? We should (help) elect republicans? Would that make it better?

Originally Posted by Smooth

Politics isn’t black or white. Why is there always the assumption that you are a Republican when you criticize them? AOC and other progressives talk shit about corporate Dems all the time. Is AOC a Republican?

Originally Posted by txgirl

Progressives are hardly electable. The handful of them that are in office, are from majority safe blue places. Please tell me in Texas how many progressives there are in office now? For some of us not in CA, it’s very much Democrats or republicans.

Originally Posted by lakers1824

I keep saying only way DACA will ever turn into green cards is if Dems get 10 republicans or they win the house, senate with 2-3 more Dems. End the filibuster and pass it that way.

Originally Posted by cmeow

So according to the Parliamentarian, the republicans in 2005 used Reconciliation to write laws about visas and they were allowed because it was "bipartisan". Then isn't DACA & TPS also "bipartisan" as many polls have shown it to be so? If the polls are not enough, how is "bipartisan" defined? 1 Democrat and 1 Republican need to support it? So the question here is how is "bipartisan" defined, according to her. Is it just some arbitrary conditions she made up? Dems need to know this before another proposal is sent. Otherwise she'll just reject it again and come up with even more reasons that doesn't have to do with the Byrd rule. As someone has pointed out, bipartisanship is not required by the Byrd rule and that's the only rule she has any saying in.

With this ruling, she has set a precedent that not only does it have to abide by the Byrd rule, it also must be "bipartisan" and she has not defined to what degree of "bipartisan" it needs to be because if you have full "bipartisan"ship, that means you have 100-0 vote. So why would you even need Reconciliation in the first place? It makes no sense.

How is someone able to create new rules that they define as they see fit (arbitrary in nature and not clearly defined), have that rule be added to the list of requirements (without anyone else approving it) for bills, and use said rule to reject bills? How are the republicans ok with this? I am really confused.

Originally Posted by justjohnjustice1988

Y'all really need to get out of your high tower liberal need media bubble and smell the coffee.

Democrats knew this would happen all along. They are just kicking the can down the road and using this decision as a "guys we tried but it's out of our hands" excuse.

Not sure what else needs to happen to open your eyes.

The southern border is a mess and Republicans want zero involvement. If Biden can't enforce basic border policies, why give him or future open border Dem presidents reward by opening up legalization to millions without more enforcement?

All the crap colleges told you is mostly anti American propaganda that doesn't make us any more likely to get legalized.

Come 2022 I will volunteer for GOP candidates because I want this Left wing administration to get reigned in.

Inflation is up the ass and millions are scared to go to work over a virus with a 99.7 survival rate.

Democrats have no plan. Only politics