• Home
  • Today
  • Advocacy
  • Forum
Donate
  • login
  • register
Home

They need you!

Forum links

  • Recent changes
  • Member list
  • Search
  • Register
Search Forums
 
Advanced Search
Go to Page...

Resources

  • Do I qualify?
  • In-state tuition
  • FAQ
  • Ways to legalize
  • Feedback
  • Contact us

Join our list

National calendar of events

«  

July

  »
S M T W T F S
 
 
1
 
2
 
3
 
4
 
5
 
6
 
7
 
8
 
9
 
10
 
11
 
12
 
13
 
14
 
15
 
16
 
17
 
18
 
19
 
20
 
21
 
22
 
23
 
24
 
25
 
26
 
27
 
28
 
29
 
30
 
31
 
 
 
Sync with this calendar
DAP Forums > DREAM Act > The News Room

Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentarian - Page 5

  • View
  • Post new reply
  • Thread tools
    Thread Tools
    Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
    Email this Page Email this Page
  • ‹ previous
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • next ›
#41
09-21-2021, 05:00 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jul 2017
2,722 posts
Copper's Avatar
Copper
Copper
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Copper
Find all posts by Copper
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by JavierHTx View Post
I’m very aware of how things work. No need for condescending replies.

My comment still stands, even with Democrats not keeping up with their promises we will always be better off with them in power. Stop with the mental gymnastics yall do with “they’re both bad in their own way” BS.
So can you please explain it, because I’m sure everyone is curious about it. The Democrats inability to act and the courts stacked against us doesn’t necessarily put us in a “we will be better off” situation.

So what’s your suggestion if that happens?
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#42
09-21-2021, 05:49 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jul 2016
1,204 posts
JavierHTx's Avatar
JavierHTx
JavierHTx
View Public Profile
Send a private message to JavierHTx
Find all posts by JavierHTx
0 AP
Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#43
09-21-2021, 05:52 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jul 2017
2,722 posts
Copper's Avatar
Copper
Copper
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Copper
Find all posts by Copper
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by JavierHTx View Post
Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
You still haven’t answer the question and offered a solution but okay.
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#44
09-21-2021, 05:52 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Sep 2014
4,804 posts
2MoreYears's Avatar
2MoreYears
2MoreYears
View Public Profile
Send a private message to 2MoreYears
Find all posts by 2MoreYears
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by JavierHTx View Post
Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
Enjoy your stay in MX!
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#45
09-21-2021, 06:43 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Feb 2010
339 posts
NK74
NK74
View Public Profile
Send a private message to NK74
Find all posts by NK74
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth View Post
Some people just don’t understand the idea of holding people accountable.
Some people don't understand that the Democratic Senator in W VA has a different incentive structure than the vast majority of the Dem caucu and you can talk all you want about accountability, primarying people while screaming about ending the filibuster and it won't do a lick of difference other than misdirecting your anger on people who are trying to help you.

I guess the false hope of having some agency is better than the realist assessment that if a whole lot of things go our way, we are fucked.
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#46
09-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Feb 2010
339 posts
NK74
NK74
View Public Profile
Send a private message to NK74
Find all posts by NK74
0 AP
The best part is we are tearing our hair about the parliamentarian and right now reconciliation is in danger of being torpedoed by like 4 different sides.
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#47
09-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Aug 2011
7,552 posts
Smooth's Avatar
Smooth
Smooth
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Smooth
Find all posts by Smooth
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by NK74 View Post
Some people don't understand that the Democratic Senator in W VA has a different incentive structure than the vast majority of the Dem caucu and you can talk all you want about accountability, primarying people while screaming about ending the filibuster and it won't do a lick of difference other than misdirecting your anger on people who are trying to help you.

I guess the false hope of having some agency is better than the realist assessment that if a whole lot of things go our way, we are fucked.
I never said anything about the filibuster. Also, I have acknowledged that getting Manchin and Sinema to vote in favor of the budget reconciliation with immigration is a different challenge. What I am saying is that it’s ok to hold Democrats accountable if they are evidently pretending like the parliamentarian is an obstacle here. The parliamentarian isn’t. That’s not helping me. That’s playing us for fools.
__________________
#Lawgic
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#48
09-21-2021, 07:13 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Aug 2011
7,552 posts
Smooth's Avatar
Smooth
Smooth
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Smooth
Find all posts by Smooth
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by NK74 View Post
The best part is we are tearing our hair about the parliamentarian and right now reconciliation is in danger of being torpedoed by like 4 different sides.
Wrong…the only people endangering reconciliation with immigration are the Senate Democrats listening to the parliamentarian when they can just ignore the bitch. That’s what our problem is.
__________________
#Lawgic
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#49
09-21-2021, 07:14 PM
Senior Member
Joined in Jan 2018
651 posts
cmeow
cmeow
View Public Profile
Send a private message to cmeow
Find all posts by cmeow
0 AP
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smooth View Post
I never said anything about the filibuster. Also, I have acknowledged that getting Manchin and Sinema to vote in favor of the budget reconciliation with immigration is a different challenge. What I am saying is that it’s ok to hold Democrats accountable if they are evidently pretending like the parliamentarian is an obstacle here. The parliamentarian isn’t. That’s not helping me. That’s playing us for fools.
I don't think Manchin and Sinema has a problem with immigration they have a problem with $3.5 Trillion. Manchin wants to bring it down to 1.5 Trillion but not sure what Sinema's number is. If there's no immigration in the Reconciliation bill and it's 3.5T, Manchin won't vote for it (according to him).
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
#50
09-21-2021, 07:26 PM
Senior Member
From SoCal, USA
Joined in Sep 2016
2,732 posts
vft1008's Avatar
vft1008
vft1008
View Public Profile
Send a private message to vft1008
Find all posts by vft1008
0 AP
All of you are here arguing when nothing is gonna happen for us. Save your energy for something better. We ain't getting shit.
__________________
“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right."
-Albus Dumbledore
  • Reply With Quote
Post your reply or quote more messages.
  • ‹ previous
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • 6
  • next ›


« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Contact Us - DREAM Act Portal - Archive - Top
Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.