Dems unveil immigration plan B - Page 5
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Originally Posted by IamAman
I don't have a clue what the registry is (and I've had a loooong week so I don't have time to google it)...Can someone explain what that is? I'm all for updating 245i though.
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A law to push it forward could be as simple as "8 USC 1259(a) is amended by striking 1972 and inserting 2021".
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Originally Posted by Demise
Registry (INA 249, 8 USC 1259) is basically the closest thing that immigration law has to a statute of limitations. You've lived in US since before the date it's set to, you can apply for a green card. The date is currently set to January 1, 1972.
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Originally Posted by gebodupa
You gotta love the irony, after 20-years, and I don't even know how many failures on both sides, their actual go-to option is literal legal amnesty, because make no mistake, moving the registry date and imposing a de-facto statute of limitations with regards to our previous lack of status and eliminating the possibility of a 10-year ban is not just similar but the very definition of "amnesty".
It is mind-boggling that anyone is even considering this approach, yet these people are actually still trying to pretend that they are doing it with a straight face, and then there is of course Menendez that you can always count on to say the most idiotic thing: buddy, are you sure that pushing the priority date all the way to 2020 will be enough and include enough people? Don't you think we are morally obligated to expand the net and also include people who haven't yet made it here but just have that desire in their hearts? Don't you think that would be the fairest of the fairest? I am absolutely fucking disgusted that after more than two decades in this country and what I would honestly describe as completely wasted life, the approach revolves around an actual pardon. People do shorter sentences for actual murder, and more importantly know how long their sentence is going to be when they go in. People in our situation are without question at the very, very bottom of the entire social structure in the US, and in all my years I have never felt it more than in the recent years, and ironically it had nothing to do with Trump or the typical right-wing rhetoric, as their arguments pale in comparison to the dangers of actually getting stopped and deported in 2005-2010 era. No, what makes the current situation so inconceivably awful is that every persecuted group that has emerged - regardless of their approach or the little validity there may have been behind their grievancese - got waved ahead of us to become the new cause celebre for self-righteous social warrior in this country. I have now witnessed the mentally ill - regardless of how irrational their beliefs may be or their grievance being with the universe itself - have become way. way more important and in need of consideration than group with a size greater than populations of several countries, combined and who ironically does not air their social grievances at every chance, but instead simply wants to....live I am done. and this time I am done for good. I am done with Daca renewals, done with following some bullshit immigration news that never amount to anything, don't with this never-ending sense of anticipation thinking that maybe it will be this year. To those of you that are on the younger side and can afford to partake in this awful game for a few more years, I truly wish you the best of luck. Unfortunately, for many people my age, DACA proved not to be the miraculous salvation we were hoping for, but at least for me, this dream feels to be finally and truly over. |
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Originally Posted by gebodupa
You gotta love the irony, after 20-years, and I don't even know how many failures on both sides, their actual go-to option is literal legal amnesty, because make no mistake, moving the registry date and imposing a de-facto statute of limitations with regards to our previous lack of status and eliminating the possibility of a 10-year ban is not just similar but the very definition of "amnesty".
It is mind-boggling that anyone is even considering this approach, yet these people are actually still trying to pretend that they are doing it with a straight face, and then there is of course Menendez that you can always count on to say the most idiotic thing: buddy, are you sure that pushing the priority date all the way to 2020 will be enough and include enough people? Don't you think we are morally obligated to expand the net and also include people who haven't yet made it here but just have that desire in their hearts? Don't you think that would be the fairest of the fairest? I am absolutely fucking disgusted that after more than two decades in this country and what I would honestly describe as completely wasted life, the approach revolves around an actual pardon. People do shorter sentences for actual murder, and more importantly know how long their sentence is going to be when they go in. People in our situation are without question at the very, very bottom of the entire social structure in the US, and in all my years I have never felt it more than in the recent years, and ironically it had nothing to do with Trump or the typical right-wing rhetoric, as their arguments pale in comparison to the dangers of actually getting stopped and deported in 2005-2010 era. No, what makes the current situation so inconceivably awful is that every persecuted group that has emerged - regardless of their approach or the little validity there may have been behind their grievancese - got waved ahead of us to become the new cause celebre for self-righteous social warrior in this country. I have now witnessed the mentally ill - regardless of how irrational their beliefs may be or their grievance being with the universe itself - have become way. way more important and in need of consideration than group with a size greater than populations of several countries, combined and who ironically does not air their social grievances at every chance, but instead simply wants to....live I am done. and this time I am done for good. I am done with Daca renewals, done with following some bullshit immigration news that never amount to anything, don't with this never-ending sense of anticipation thinking that maybe it will be this year. To those of you that are on the younger side and can afford to partake in this awful game for a few more years, I truly wish you the best of luck. Unfortunately, for many people my age, DACA proved not to be the miraculous salvation we were hoping for, but at least for me, this dream feels to be finally and truly over. |
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Originally Posted by gebodupa
You gotta love the irony, after 20-years, and I don't even know how many failures on both sides, their actual go-to option is literal legal amnesty, because make no mistake, moving the registry date and imposing a de-facto statute of limitations with regards to our previous lack of status and eliminating the possibility of a 10-year ban is not just similar but the very definition of "amnesty".
It is mind-boggling that anyone is even considering this approach, yet these people are actually still trying to pretend that they are doing it with a straight face, and then there is of course Menendez that you can always count on to say the most idiotic thing: buddy, are you sure that pushing the priority date all the way to 2020 will be enough and include enough people? Don't you think we are morally obligated to expand the net and also include people who haven't yet made it here but just have that desire in their hearts? Don't you think that would be the fairest of the fairest? I am absolutely fucking disgusted that after more than two decades in this country and what I would honestly describe as completely wasted life, the approach revolves around an actual pardon. People do shorter sentences for actual murder, and more importantly know how long their sentence is going to be when they go in. People in our situation are without question at the very, very bottom of the entire social structure in the US, and in all my years I have never felt it more than in the recent years, and ironically it had nothing to do with Trump or the typical right-wing rhetoric, as their arguments pale in comparison to the dangers of actually getting stopped and deported in 2005-2010 era. No, what makes the current situation so inconceivably awful is that every persecuted group that has emerged - regardless of their approach or the little validity there may have been behind their grievancese - got waved ahead of us to become the new cause celebre for self-righteous social warrior in this country. I have now witnessed the mentally ill - regardless of how irrational their beliefs may be or their grievance being with the universe itself - have become way. way more important and in need of consideration than group with a size greater than populations of several countries, combined and who ironically does not air their social grievances at every chance, but instead simply wants to....live I am done. and this time I am done for good. I am done with Daca renewals, done with following some bullshit immigration news that never amount to anything, don't with this never-ending sense of anticipation thinking that maybe it will be this year. To those of you that are on the younger side and can afford to partake in this awful game for a few more years, I truly wish you the best of luck. Unfortunately, for many people my age, DACA proved not to be the miraculous salvation we were hoping for, but at least for me, this dream feels to be finally and truly over. |
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Originally Posted by JayR9
What stopping Republican from walking back the registry when they control the house and senate?
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Originally Posted by Demise
Registry (INA 249, 8 USC 1259) is basically the closest thing that immigration law has to a statute of limitations. You've lived in US since before the date it's set to, you can apply for a green card. The date is currently set to January 1, 1972.
A law to push it forward could be as simple as "8 USC 1259(a) is amended by striking 1972 and inserting 2021". |
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You gotta love the irony, after 20-years, and I don't even know how many failures on both sides, their actual go-to option is literal legal amnesty, because make no mistake, moving the registry date and imposing a de-facto statute of limitations with regards to our previous lack of status and eliminating the possibility of a 10-year ban is not just similar but the very definition of "amnesty".
It is mind-boggling that anyone is even considering this approach, yet these people are actually still trying to pretend that they are doing it with a straight face, and then there is of course Menendez that you can always count on to say the most idiotic thing: buddy, are you sure that pushing the priority date all the way to 2020 will be enough and include enough people? Don't you think we are morally obligated to expand the net and also include people who haven't yet made it here but just have that desire in their hearts? Don't you think that would be the fairest of the fairest? I am absolutely fucking disgusted that after more than two decades in this country and what I would honestly describe as completely wasted life, the approach revolves around an actual pardon. People do shorter sentences for actual murder, and more importantly know how long their sentence is going to be when they go in. People in our situation are without question at the very, very bottom of the entire social structure in the US, and in all my years I have never felt it more than in the recent years, and ironically it had nothing to do with Trump or the typical right-wing rhetoric, as their arguments pale in comparison to the dangers of actually getting stopped and deported in 2005-2010 era. No, what makes the current situation so inconceivably awful is that every persecuted group that has emerged - regardless of their approach or the little validity there may have been behind their grievancese - got waved ahead of us to become the new cause celebre for self-righteous social warrior in this country. I have now witnessed the mentally ill - regardless of how irrational their beliefs may be or their grievance being with the universe itself - have become way. way more important and in need of consideration than group with a size greater than populations of several countries, combined and who ironically does not air their social grievances at every chance, but instead simply wants to....live I am done. and this time I am done for good. I am done with Daca renewals, done with following some bullshit immigration news that never amount to anything, don't with this never-ending sense of anticipation thinking that maybe it will be this year. To those of you that are on the younger side and can afford to partake in this awful game for a few more years, I truly wish you the best of luck. Unfortunately, for many people my age, DACA proved not to be the miraculous salvation we were hoping for, but at least for me, this dream feels to be finally and truly over. |
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