Trump Proposes Fines, Prison Time for Migrants Who Don’t Join Registry - Page 4

Mexicans are the blood and backbone of the country. It's the Americas, not Europe.

So we won massively during the Biden Admin by your logic.
MAGA IQ of 2.69. LOL

Tariffs pretty much burst and only caused harm and embarrassment. I think they may have quietly withdrawn them after realizing how much they got screwed over on it. Its hard to maintain your propaganda bubble when the tariffs bill comes due. China is big enough that they can tariff the US back. Last Trump term they switched from US soybeans to brazilian soybeans and Trump had to do special spending to save US farms.

They might be saving billions temporarily, but a lot of what was saved was actually critical investment. For example, a lot of investment was around general research that is often maligned as wasteful spending because it doesn't have a clear practical purpose. But it tends to be the research that has the most impact. Just finding out why things are they way they are is incredibly valuable. The private sector isn't long term oriented anymore and generic research tends to take decades to really pay off, but when it does it invents entire new industries like the internet.

Its also not just a simple $5 egg increase, its actually much more devastating than just $5. Its doubling of food prices. Its that they grabbed and deported those who did the farm work. Its that they scared off the citizens and PRs that did the farm work by harassing them day after day. Florida is already staring down the barrel of an agricultural disaster all due to their excess pride.

And the cherry on top is all these cuts they've done so far don't actually amount to much in the face of a 32 Trillion dollar debt. Its a few days, maybe a week tops. The US spends big and a few token billions here and there don't do much. All feel good propaganda.

All of this is likely to trigger an epic recession the likes of which compares to a great depression.

The pro-immigration sentiment was at an all-time low during the Biden administration and if we were in the spotlight, the right-wing media would have torn us to shreds. Better to stay quiet and out of the way than get the same hate as the migrants...

Biden was weak as hell on immigration.

The thing about tariffs is that even before they come into effect companies will use them as a pretext to raise prices. In fact companies will use anything as a pretext for that. The whole cost of living crisis didn't really kick off until 2021 when the Suez Canal got blocked and media was panicking that "oh no, global shipping just completely stopped D:", now look at the map of the world and tell me aside for Saudi oil when is the Suez the fastest route for any US bound shipping?

Tariffs only work when you have domestic industry that is in direct competition to the same industry abroad but also the domestic industry needs to be able to carry on the full weight of local demand. So if you tariff country A, and we get a large part of our steel from there, and don't produce enough domestically then what'll happen is that whoever needs steel will just pay the tariff and pass the costs onto consumers because what alternative do they have?

Of course Trump is a moron who thinks that it'll be China that'll be paying for those things.

Regarding whatever nonsense Elon is trying to do will go about as well as his purchase of Twitter. Especially when they gloat about nonsense like USDA holding software licenses that they're not using. Nevermind that at that level you buy those things in bulk and frequently they just come with stuff bundled in that you might not need but not like it costs any more. Also you know, if you need 30 licenses and you buy 120 then you're set, if you need 30 and buy 30 then the moment you need a 31st you have a problem. Even if it's not the cheapest option this is a rounding error.

I won't pretend that Biden didn't fumble the bag. He kept trying to control inflation by twisting interest rates when what we really needed are price controls which is a whole other can of worms but if we're in a huge bull market and companies keep posting higher and higher profits
then obviously they aren't really struggling to make ends meet. I also have a suspicion that the reason why hiking rates didn't cool consumer spending much is because we've hit the bottom, people have cut down everything they'd be willing to cut down on in every day life so that only left the big ticket items (homes and cars).

Regarding the egg prices. I'll say is part avian flu pandemic and part good old fashioned corporate greed, and that too has basically hit the bottom. People on bluesky like to clown "why Trump take egg" but what happened there is what stores sell eggs for (which is what the supplier asks + some profit margin) is more than people are willing to pay. So after feeding a few pallets of expired eggs to the dumpster they just decided not to bother with it.

On the bright side it's such a humongous mess, and Trump and his copresident are two massive morons, lets just hope we all survive to 2026. Maybe we'll be extra lucky and Trump will croak and the whole cult dies with him because there is no heir apparent here who resonates with morons quite as well.




Anyways back to the topic at hand. Technically failure to register is a misdemeanor that can be punished with a fine up to $1000 or/and 6 months. Now I doubt they'll get far prosecuting for it since it has to be willful, so saying "oh, didn't know" is in fact a perfectly valid defense for that, especially that it is trying to punish an inaction, so unless they catch you in 4K saying "today I will break INA 262" how will they prove intent? That's whether federal DAs would want to bother with it. Then there's the whole aspect of laws essentially getting struck down on the basis of long time nonenforcement, uncommon but it has happened.

Also in order for them to catch you for it, they'd have to catch you in the first place. In either case you'll end up in removal proceedings.

Now this doesn't affect us since pretty much everyone here has had at least DACA, but should you give your name and address to an administration that wants to speedrun deporting 12 million people in 2 years? Not unless you specifically want to put yourself into removal proceedings. Yes they are rare cases where you want to do that, like seeking COR.

Finally lets be honest, they are not catching that many people without literally stopping everyone on the street and going from door to door like the Gestapo looking for jews. Even if they did try to go fully pedal to the metal on this, there's the fact that the effort required for each subsequent undoc only goes up as one people will wise up to how ICE operates and two the number itself will go down, so the odds that a random person you stop is undocumented only goes down.

That is exactly what DHS is trying to do

They are prepping for mass sweeps and checkpoints.

If one don't register and ICE somehow catches you, you're automatically a criminal. They'll arrest you and put you in jail until you come up with $5k.

But if one registers, maybe they'll be put you on a List. And try to deport you in a "humane" way.

They'll put you in jail regardless.

If one wants to follow the law, then must follow this law as well.

Laken Riley act. They're not letting you out if you get caught, so don't get caught.