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Outline of New Bill - Page 19

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#181
06-14-2018, 09:00 AM
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It's so easy to take the moral high ground and call others out on their level of patience.

No one asked for immediate citizenship. Some of us have been waiting for decades.. And this bill would provide us another decade plus potentially, for the sense of security we all truly desire.
Yea no one did ask for immediate citizenship, but you want instant greencard. If this is the best repubs will get to, im quite happy, once i see the full text though we'll see if its on a solid footing.

You've waited a decade or maybe two, you can wait 5 years while secure in your stay in the us
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Any updates on the draft or when the bill is release ?
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#183
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This is not entirely true. There will be 400,000 GCs up for grabs in 5 years, maybe up to 450,000. Sure, some will have to wait 5 more years most less than 3 years, but with the visa you wont be stranded. You will be able to travel. You will be able todo anything if not more than what you can already do with daca. What else can you complain about? I think is a reasonable plan. Most importanly it expires not until 6 years later, and it can be renewed. I think this covers most of our bases. Not everyone will apply the for GC the first year they become available , some will wait longer, I think it will be okay.
numbers will be 161,800 if they get rid of Adult unmarried children (23,400), Adult Married Children(23,400), Siblings of US Citizens(65,000) and Diversity Visa (50,000) every year. so after 5 years escrow should have 809,000 Green Cards enough to cover all existing DACA. someone is wrong with calculations.


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First: (F1) Unmarried Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens: 23,400 plus any numbers not required for fourth preference.

Second: Spouses and Children, and Unmarried Sons and Daughters of Permanent Residents: 114,200, plus the number (if any) by which the worldwide family preference level exceeds 226,000, plus any unused first preference numbers:

A. (F2A) Spouses and Children of Permanent Residents: 77% of the overall second preference limitation, of which 75% are exempt from the per-country limit;

B. (F2B) Unmarried Sons and Daughters (21 years of age or older) of Permanent Residents: 23% of the overall second preference limitation.

Third: (F3) Married Sons and Daughters of U.S. Citizens: 23,400, plus any numbers not required by first and second preferences.

Fourth: (F4) Brothers and Sisters of Adult U.S. Citizens: 65,000, plus any numbers not required by first three preferences.
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#184
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Yes, that's true. People like Goodlatte have complained about this AP loophole ever since people started adjusting through it. Not possible now since AP is not an option for us.

If this new bill comes along, it might add a new provision regarding this loophole.
if its a regular non immigrant visa like H1/L1/J1/F1/O1 etc we should be able to travel, not sure how they'll deal with EWI. if they waive EWI people can may adjust status through other means even before initial 5 years on new visa.
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if its a regular non immigrant visa like H1/L1/J1/F1/O1 etc we should be able to travel, not sure how they'll deal with EWI. if they waive EWI people can may adjust status through other means even before initial 5 years on new visa.
There's already language in the bill that clarifies this: leaving and re-entering the country under this program does not count as admission.

So they're being proactive to include this in the current iteration of the bill - we can travel, but it doesn't clear EWI.

Could they actually pull this off, and single us out with this exception? We'll have to see.
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There's already language in the bill that clarifies this: leaving and re-entering the country under this program does not count as admission.

So they're being proactive to include this in the current iteration of the bill - we can travel, but it doesn't clear EWI.

Could they actually pull this off, and single us out with this exception? We'll have to see.
Good eyes. Which page of the outline is this clarified on?
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Does anyone know what date the other judge is going to rule on DACA?
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There's already language in the bill that clarifies this: leaving and re-entering the country under this program does not count as admission.

So they're being proactive to include this in the current iteration of the bill - we can travel, but it doesn't clear EWI.

Could they actually pull this off, and single us out with this exception? We'll have to see.
That would really suck, I don't understand what the justification would be for this. How can people be able to leave and reenter with proper inspection, and somehow still not be able to clear the EWI status?
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That would really suck, I don't understand what the justification would be for this. How can people be able to leave and reenter with proper inspection, and somehow still not be able to clear the EWI status?
Not sure why Executive Office for Immigration Review made this the precedent in the first place.
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Not sure why Executive Office for Immigration Review made this the precedent in the first place.
I've looked at the three pages for the past ten minutes and don't see that anywhere.
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