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Seems like they slightly changed the requirements to fulfill during the 6 years of Conditional Permanent Residency:

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(D) The alien has completed at least 1 of the following:
(i) The alien has acquired a degree from an institution of higher education in the United States or has completed at least 2 years, in good standing, in a program for a bachelor's degree or higher degree in the United States.
(ii) The alien has served in the uniformed services for at least 2 years and, if discharged, has received an honorable discharge.
(E) The alien has provided a list of each secondary school (as that term is defined in section 9101 of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965 (20 U.S.C. 7801)) that the alien attended in the United States.
It doesn't say at least 2 years of any college... now it's at least 2 years towards a bachelor's or higher degree. However it says a person can provide a list of each high school they went to while in the U.S. I really don't understand why someone can just give them a list of schools and be able to get their permanent residency after 6 years without doing anything; no college or military. Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, but it does say at least one of the following, not two.

Does anyone else find that strange? Or is it like the age thing... give Republicans something to take out so it seems like they compromised on the bill. If they do take it out, that means people who got an AA must continue on and get into a four year college to get their BA/BS.
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Yeah, I suppose it makes sense for a senator to say, "Lower it by five or ten years and maybe, MAYBE.." Though it would be great if that did not happen, it's definately something the evil ones likely have in their mind. I'M LOOKING AT YOU VITTER AND/OR SESSIONS.
I hope they don't lower it 10 yrs that would age a lot of people out.
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Seems like they slightly changed the requirements to fulfill during the 6 years of Conditional Permanent Residency:

It doesn't say at least 2 years of any college... now it's at least 2 years towards a bachelor's or higher degree. However it says a person can provide a list of each high school they went to while in the U.S. I really don't understand why someone can just give them a list of schools and be able to get their permanent residency after 6 years without doing anything; no college or military. Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, but it does say at least one of the following, not two.

Does anyone else find that strange? Or is it like the age thing... give Republicans something to take out so it seems like they compromised on the bill. If they do take it out, that means people who got an AA must continue on and get into a four year college to get their BA/BS.
Nope. You are reading requirement E. D requires to either finish 2 years of college or two year of military. E requires students to provide records of the High Schools they went.

Reason for editing: got the damn letters wrong! shaaaaaaaammmmeeeeee!!!!!!
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Seems like they slightly changed the requirements to fulfill during the 6 years of Conditional Permanent Residency:

It doesn't say at least 2 years of any college... now it's at least 2 years towards a bachelor's or higher degree. However it says a person can provide a list of each high school they went to while in the U.S. I really don't understand why someone can just give them a list of schools and be able to get their permanent residency after 6 years without doing anything; no college or military. Unless I'm interpreting it wrong, but it does say at least one of the following, not two.

Does anyone else find that strange? Or is it like the age thing... give Republicans something to take out so it seems like they compromised on the bill. If they do take it out, that means people who got an AA must continue on and get into a four year college to get their BA/BS.
This kind of reminds me of cornyn's argument against dream

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For example, it contains no firm requirement for the illegal immigrant to graduate with a degree from an accredited U.S. institution of Higher Education (either a two or four-year institution),
http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/inde...n_id=&Issue_id=
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Nope. You are reading requirement E. D requires to either finish 2 years of college or two year of military. E requires students to provide records of the High Schools they went.

Reason for editing: got the damn letters wrong! shaaaaaaaammmmeeeeee!!!!!!

Optimist is right, I believe. The "at least one" is referring to this either college or military - which is requirement "D"

And in addition you need to supply them with a list of all secondary schools you attended - which is requirement "E"
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Oh you guys are right! I didn't notice E, I thought it said (iii). :P Now it makes sense.
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The House bill is different from the Senate bill.

I am glad Sen. Durbin listened to those of us who met with him regarding the age limit. That was to be expected.
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The House bill is different from the Senate bill.

I am glad Sen. Durbin listened to those of us who met with him regarding the age limit. That was to be expected.
I'm curious to know how different the House bill is.
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I can't help but wonder how they plan on determining when a person entered if the entered without inspection. Do any of you know?
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I actually think they included a higher age limit to get more military recruits. Older dreamers are probably more likely to join the military than go back to school.
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