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#11
11-05-2010, 12:31 AM
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I think you are highly misinformed. California Dream Act is just for financial aid.


SENATE
CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE


GILBERT A. CEDILLO
SENATOR, TWENTY SECOND DISTRICT


SB 1301 (Cedillo) California Dream Act
Fact Sheet

What is the California Dream Act?
The California Dream Act is a state legislative proposal that allows U.S. citizen and undocumented “AB 540” students to apply and compete for financial aid at California public colleges and universities without the use of the Federal Application for Student Aid (FAFSA).

What law will the California Dream Act specifically change?
Institutional Student Aid: This bill would allow AB 540 students to apply and compete for institutional aid administered by the attending college or university (i.e. State University Grant, UC Grant, scholarships, work study, and loan programs)

What is the Problem?
California high school graduates who have been accepted to our premier public colleges and universities may not be recognized as state residents and may be ineligible for state financial aid. According to the San Francisco Chronicle, there are over 25,000 undocumented students who graduate every year from high school. These students confront a difficult challenge of financing their college education because they are ineligible for any federal grants or loans and are unable to legally work.

“Many of these youngsters find themselves caught in a catch-22 situation. As [undocumented] immigrants, they cannot work legally. They are also effectively barred from developing academically beyond high school because of the high cost of pursuing higher education. In short, although these children have built their lives here, they have no possibility of achieving and living the American dream. What a tremendous loss for them, and what a tremendous loss to our society.” – Republican U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch author of earlier versions of the federal DREAM Act

What is an “AB 540” student?
“AB 540” students are those students who may qualify for in-state tuition at public colleges and universities in California (California Education Code §68130.5). Regardless of immigration status, students may qualify for instate tuition at the UC, CSU, and CCC, if they meet ALL of the following requirements:
1. Attend high school in California for three or more years;
2. Graduate from a California high school or pass the GED; and
3. If undocumented, file an affidavit with the college or university stating that they have applied for a lawful immigration status or will apply as soon as they are eligible to do so.

Does this mean an “AB 540” student would have to fill out a FAFSA?
An undocumented student should not file a FAFSA because it may affect their future application for legalization. The California Dream Act would allow the state to fund its neediest students while they are awaiting their legalization process by creating procedures where AB 540 students can compete with their peers without the use of the FAFSA.

For More Information Contact:
Eric Guerra – Capitol Office: (916) 651-4327 or [email protected]
Marvin Pineda – District Office: (213) 612-9566 or [email protected]
Visit Senator Cedillo’s Website at www.sen.ca.gov/cedillo

Please fax letters of support for the California Dream Act to Senator Cedillo’s Capitol Office at (916) 327-8817
So i guess the article is wrong. Thanks for ruining my day!!!
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11-05-2010, 12:06 PM
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Let me look into that for you, I have a lot of relatives up there that know refugees. If you are from Mexico there is a good chance you can get it with all the cartel drug wars and people dying down there and what not.
Canada changed the law this year....they don't want no moh Mexicans...
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11-05-2010, 05:59 PM
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So i guess the article is wrong. Thanks for ruining my day!!!
Hey, we can call it even now. I got excited after I read your post thinking they changed some of the benefits of CA Dream Act. I'm just happy with the prospect of being able to participate in work study etc. Let's just focus on the bright side.
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11-05-2010, 07:29 PM
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How does one claim refugee to move to Canada ?
For example, you're from Mexico if I recall correctly, if you are someone in your immediate family is threatened, hurt, or killed by the drug cartel, you can get asylum in Canada.
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11-05-2010, 07:30 PM
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^^^^Eddy, mentioning that may actually accelerate your case being denied because you're confirming that you are not being honest on just going there as a student. It's either you apply as a student and remain a student OR directly apply for residency, but hey maybe I'm wrong.
Canada actually WANTS students to stay. It's not like the US that tell you "We have trained you in our best universites, now get the hell out of here so you can make your country better than ours because we don't see the value in keeping you here because we're ignorant"
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11-05-2010, 07:32 PM
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So i guess the article is wrong. Thanks for ruining my day!!!
We try out best...lol jk

Just know that states can't really do anything immigration-wise.
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11-06-2010, 03:09 AM
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Ok so how is this bad news again?
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11-06-2010, 02:15 PM
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guys if you thinking of going to canada it is not that easy. i am trying it myself. their permanent residency is based on point system. you get points for education, age, language ability, adaptability and work experience. work experience is where it gets tricky you have to have job experience in the field it is listed in their job category. you have to have minimum of 4yrs of job experience in that field of work to get max points. next hurdle is the language ability. canada has two official language english and french. Maximum points you receive for high proficiency in one language is 16. for me, i dont know any french so i can only get points for english and to prove that i have high proficiency in english i have to take the IELTS exam. what i read on forums very few ppl get perfect score of 16. maximum points you get for education is 25 and if you have BA you only get 20 points. however if you have immediate family member in canada who are canadian citizens than you get like 5 points for that. my point is not to discourage you but to inform you. i am going through it right now. hope this helps. if you need more info you can check their website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp. good luck
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11-07-2010, 01:00 PM
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guys if you thinking of going to canada it is not that easy. i am trying it myself. their permanent residency is based on point system. you get points for education, age, language ability, adaptability and work experience. work experience is where it gets tricky you have to have job experience in the field it is listed in their job category. you have to have minimum of 4yrs of job experience in that field of work to get max points. next hurdle is the language ability. canada has two official language english and french. Maximum points you receive for high proficiency in one language is 16. for me, i dont know any french so i can only get points for english and to prove that i have high proficiency in english i have to take the IELTS exam. what i read on forums very few ppl get perfect score of 16. maximum points you get for education is 25 and if you have BA you only get 20 points. however if you have immediate family member in canada who are canadian citizens than you get like 5 points for that. my point is not to discourage you but to inform you. i am going through it right now. hope this helps. if you need more info you can check their website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp. good luck
It's easy to get the experience if you graduate from one of their universities though
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11-07-2010, 03:22 PM
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guys if you thinking of going to canada it is not that easy. i am trying it myself. their permanent residency is based on point system. you get points for education, age, language ability, adaptability and work experience. work experience is where it gets tricky you have to have job experience in the field it is listed in their job category. you have to have minimum of 4yrs of job experience in that field of work to get max points. next hurdle is the language ability. canada has two official language english and french. Maximum points you receive for high proficiency in one language is 16. for me, i dont know any french so i can only get points for english and to prove that i have high proficiency in english i have to take the IELTS exam. what i read on forums very few ppl get perfect score of 16. maximum points you get for education is 25 and if you have BA you only get 20 points. however if you have immediate family member in canada who are canadian citizens than you get like 5 points for that. my point is not to discourage you but to inform you. i am going through it right now. hope this helps. if you need more info you can check their website http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.asp. good luck
thanks, I certainly found that info very interesting.

so, instead of trying to learn Japanese for the heck of it since my school offers free access to Rosetta Stone, then maybe I should instead try to learn french...

The bad news is that for each of their 29 job categories they will only accept a maximum of 1000 applicant, and a maximum of 20,000 for all job categories, and the job experience would have to be full time and paid (I was initially wondering if maybe internships could be counted, apparently not).

My guess is that the point system will be used to accept those with the highest scores, therefore, the motivation would be to get as many points as possible, while meeting the other requirements.

furthermore to go as a skilled worker or professional the requirements are that you pass their language test and have the work experience (minimum 1 year), or a valid job offer, which seems as a requirement beyond the number of points that could accumulate.

does not seem easy but they do have other categories, and maybe I am missing something, I quickly browsed and skimmed through what I found.
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