An Alternative to Mexican Undocumented Students - Page 2
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Originally Posted by mikesandy
Hey Georgia1, I've read your story, there were definitely some alarming parts to it, in my opinion. The biggest issue that confronts me is the income inequality, by race. Hispanics and Blacks make a lower amount of household income per year than Whites. It's disappointing to report that fact, but it's true. This ties in to Bernie Sanders 8 hour rant about the condition of America's economy today and how America's middle class is slowly getting eradicated. Everyone is heading downward in this economy, but it's a greater shockwave on minorities, such as you and I.
I really wish that things had been much different for you because trying to get educated with these kinds of difficulties and stresses is something that you don't deserve. I think that if things were easy for you (just like an American student) you probably would have performed better in a college than they have. Your grades in classes and your GPA would be higher than the other students, especially in the field of Engineering. When I read political sites and come across other forums of people who reply that they are against the DREAM Act or immigration reform, I find it bizarre to believe. These people, who are immigrants who want a college education and want to get assimilated into the American college experience are trying to get an bachelor's degree education, which is the gateway to the real world and becoming a productive worker for the country. That's what the immigration acts are about and to deny them that right (to get educated) states that they should be locked in a lifetime of a third-world standard of living and poverty, as you've already expressed in this thread. Even though the DA failed because of a minority of senators (41) voting against the interest of giving you a good quality education, we clearly had a majority of people who understood our cause. We had more than 50% of the American people on our side and more than 50% of the senators in the House and the Senate. In 2013, we will have the majority again and it will get passed for sure. |
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Originally Posted by ivan81
Viva Las Mexico, btw, are you Mexican ICP?, and no I don't consider myself a Mexican who speaks good English, I consider myself a Mexican American without the proper documentation. I bleed Green, Red, White, and Blue!
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Originally Posted by edie0789
What about financially? Does the government give students some money for school, like FASFA?
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That's what I'd like to find out too!
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Reason: I don't wanna go back to Mexico!
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Originally Posted by eddy
Higher education is not a right for anyone. Not even citizens.
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In my opinion, I think that getting a job and having opportunities to fulfill the American dream are obtained by hard work and effort, not by statistics, or racial reasons. If some unfortunate undocumented students are not able to compete in this game fairly, I guess one thing to do is to search for other options.
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Originally Posted by ivan81
Viva Las Mexico, btw, are you Mexican ICP?, and no I don't consider myself a Mexican who speaks good English, I consider myself a Mexican American without the proper documentation. I bleed Green, Red, White, and Blue!
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If you consider to be an American as well is something that anyone may feel. But remember that only what your legal documents say about your citizenship is what counts toward having a way of satisfying the basic needs of man such as getting a job, owning a house, and living the life most humans would like to have.
Do not be offended by the message, think about your options.
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Originally Posted by IceCreamPony
Yes, I am. I love Mexico.
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For bachelor's they have a scholarship program for very poor students called PRONABES. However, the tuition fees are very low compared to any American College, at least in the public sector.
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Originally Posted by ivan81
^I don't think there's anything like FAFSA in place in Mexico, I guess you have to pay your way through college, I live in San Diego so I get to watch local Tijuana News, I've seen that even at K-9 level which by law should be free, people are getting charged. The last sad thing I saw regarding financial assistance from the Mexican government, was that the devices for analog TVs to go digital, they were supposed to pay a part of it, and they keep pushing the date back, so NO, I don't think you're getting your MEXFSA, you might get a burrito though.
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However, tuition fees are very low compared to American Colleges. At least you can graduate from college.
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Originally Posted by edie0789
What about financially? Does the government give students some money for school, like FASFA?
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For bachelor's they have a program called PRONABES that gives some money for very poor people. However, tuition fees are very low, compared to American Colleges.
Once you have a degree, you can apply to CONACYT and go to a good American university to do graduate school.
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Originally Posted by Rocasalada
Yeah but doesn't CONACYT have a policy of having to return to Mexico and work over there for 4 years once u finish your degree?
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Of course legally you have to come back to Mexico to comply with the policy, but if you have a job and visa offer in another country, you can go, once you return to Mexico. The signing of the letter is more of a moral statement that Mexicans are paying taxes for your education and that it's good to work in the country and develop your field of study, which benefits the country as a whole.
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