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U.S. Debt fix ideas... - Page 2

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01-17-2011, 06:05 PM
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Hmm this is your way of communicating with the government? lol Sounds awesome.

Well am pretty sure the 1.3 trillion dollars in debt have mostly been earned by 2 wars in the middle east without raising taxes on people. Lets not forget the 600 billion bail out. What about the Bush tax cuts, corporate taxes, people in low income areas paying more in property taxes than people in Beverly hills, etc. I can go on, but i won't because well i have a job, 2 in fact, and then i have to go visit my gf so i better get to the work, but you will most likely continue with your nonsense. You know when you said you work for the government i thought something different but now i see how you work for the government, by blogging. My grandmother can do that too lol... Oh by the way, its not that hard to track people, i mean you are using a computer, computers have IP addresses.
I got a job. I don't work for them. What matters is that they know who I am. For I got a purpose in life, and that purpose is to change peoples' hearts and the way people some people think.
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01-17-2011, 06:49 PM
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I hope you don't own firearms Sonof2...
War against radicals is just a tip of the iceberg, underground spending doesn't stop there. Our own government would rather fund toppling of foreign governments than wellfare for its own citizens. You want to cut the debt, then stop buying what you can't afford. Hegemony is something that America can't afford right now, but no one here wants to give it up and would rather cut wages and wellfare programs. An obscure political name in a country which name hardly anyone can pronounce gets tons of $$ while back home 1 in 6 Americans are starving.
Immigration opponents often complain that US started looking like a third world country because of so many immigrants from there. US doesn't look like 3rd world country because of its people but because of policies like those, spending like drunken sailors abroad and not solving basic problems at home.
The "tax rich people" argument is so thin. Taxing them is playing the cat and mouse game, those that don't like paying taxes will find a loophole and move their money in an offshore tycoon's heaven. Of course we could rise taxes on them, but that's only partial relief.
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01-17-2011, 07:26 PM
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I hope you don't own firearms Sonof2...
Me? Weapons? Nah, I don't need those. I'm just trying to give ideas to the government to reduce the debt that they are in, and also give them ideas on other issues.

I would much rather be unknown and living peacefully somewhere like a ranch or an island than having to involved in war and having to deal with society's problems. But what can I do, I mean, I love the U.S. It is just that some American people don't realize that respect is the key for peace.
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01-20-2011, 05:36 PM
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Just finished watching Cavuto and his pals yapping on the subject of cutting the spending. Scene 1:
- Newly electeds are after agricultural subsidies and various social wellfare programs as a way to cut spending. Great. Let's kill the agriculture.
Scene 2:
- Illegal immigration should become a criminal act and both the employer that knowlingly hired illegals AND the illegal that worked for said employer should go to jail. Together with his guest, they conclude that feds need more agents and more authorization to dig through companies' papers.
Awesome. Let's kill livelihood of those that grow and bring our bread to the table (litteraly) and increase hunger and despair and give that money that are "saved" to the Big Brother for more protection.
You'll catch the same people being both for cutting government spending and against immigration. They'd cut federal spending BUT are for stronger enforcement. What will fund enforcement then, thin air?!
Neither of the two parties have any intention on addressing the stem of the problem. I wonder how much does US involvment in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict cost us vs. how much do we spend on agricultural subsidies? And which one is most logical to cut first in the time of emergency?
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01-20-2011, 06:11 PM
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Just finished watching Cavuto and his pals yapping on the subject of cutting the spending. Scene 1:
- Newly electeds are after agricultural subsidies and various social wellfare programs as a way to cut spending. Great. Let's kill the agriculture.
Scene 2:
First of all, I agree with you on your enrage against cutting spending on agriculture. The congress has to understand that agriculture is very necessary, because it produces food, it can produce energy, and products to make clothes and other usable disposable materials.

I believe that the states that have a lot of land, like Texas, if they increase their farming production and trade with the states that are smaller and more populated, then, trading with other states could be great for the economy.

It would be like the U.N. trading within them selves, stimulating trade of products. The only difference here in the U.S. is that the currency is the same, which is good. I don't recommend the U.N. uses the same currency because each country has their own currency, and that is good for them, because that promotes trading and the buying of different currencies.

States like N.Y. should focus on what they can do, which is the market, because they are the trading capital of the world, and they should import things that they can't produce. Same with every other state here in the U.S. They should base their production with the same concept and philosophy.

Also, the U.S. has to stop sending industries to China, but to encourage those industries that they want to stay here to create jobs, and send the products made here over there. That would make China think twice or even three times about them raising taxes on our products that we trade with them.
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01-21-2011, 02:56 PM
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I wish you could (and many other that decide on debt matters) understand my enrage with the Tom Clancy re-enactment bullshit that our government spends unseen millions on around the world. We can't afford executing hegemony anymore upon anyone.
Russians sold their only aircraft carrier when they found themselves in the financial sewers. They also couldn't afford maintenance of their Arctic Fleet so they abandoned and reused what they couldn't afford. They could have print some more money to keep all that power projection equipment afloat, right? Yet they gave priority to national debt as a national security issue. I hope we saw something is there to be learned from these examples.
We still don't see national debt as a national security issue...
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