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10-29-2011, 01:51 AM
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For as long I could remember, my status has encouraged me to do well in school. Now i'm at my senior year of of my undergrad and I feel the tables have turned on me. I feel SOO discouraged and weak. I just failed my first midterm of my college career. I'll have to pull out and repeat this course. FML. I need something to look forward to. Something to work towards. I'm about to walk into a brick wall. Sorry for the somewhat cliche rant. It's hitting hard today.
Been there, my first year of college I did great, second year I plummeted and literally failed the semester, and it seemed like I was going the same route the following semester. I tried to seek help, and it seemed to help, but not really.

I also felt like I was going no-where fast, my GPA got ruined, I was not feeling as impressed, happy, or even just motivated with my major, like I was in the wrong place. It was not a great feeling, and to make matters worse, I felt isolated, I was still in the shadows and not willing to reach to anyone for help or guidance.

I needed to find something to work towards and I could not find it, it was frustrating and really affecting me psychologically. But know what, there is something to work towards. Yes, it is true, we cannot get employeed because of this situation and we tend to think that as a result we have no solution and we are going to just get a piece of paper, but it should not be like that. We just have to be creative on how we use the knowledge we have gained throughout our education and how to apply it. For example, one of the things I will be focusing on in one of my organizations is using entrepeneurship as something to work towards. Creating your own business, finding a use for the degree outside of the normal path most people take where they get employeed. Is it going to be easy, probably not, that is why you have to work hard.

But what if your GPA is fucked (like mine, after one very awful semester relatively early in my education). The advice I got from a group of alumni who have become successful after graduating, what is important is that you graduate, just graduate, in addition to another piece of advice I keep on hearing from professors, CEO's and Presidents of corporations and even a very notable scientists, take as many opportunities to speak to people as you possibly can and learn how to communicate effectively.

You can be a person with amazing ideas, you may be a person with excellent grades, but if you cannot communication those ideas, if you cannot talk to people effectively, you are not going to get that far, ultimately, an employeer is going to seek the person they are going to be most comfortable with. The GPA may play a factor in getting you into the interview, but there are other ways to get into an interview..... talk to people, network, build your professional network, but don't make it something where you are just trying to meet everyone to have them in your network (gotta collect them all, like pokemon cards or something), but actually work with those people and demonstrate that you are someone that will work diligently, and you may find that they could be great help, who knows, maybe they know someone already working in the field you are interested in and they could put a good word for you (and frankly this is perhaps one of the most important sources of information a potential employeer is going to use).

Keep working hard, don't give up, you are almost there.
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10-29-2011, 02:12 AM
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...but there is no chance someone will hire an engineer who has failed a class. It would just be bad business, when there are other people applying for the same position.
False! I go to one of the largest Universities in the US and I hear of friends who get hired at large firms for Sci and Engineering careers and they have also dropped or even failed a class! I'd say it's quite normal in the engineering/sciences field..the material is tough.

Honestly, all you need to do is graduate; I have friends who got away with a low GPA and still ended up getting awesome jobs with good salaries in the engineering field. Not saying that you should have a low GPA, but the demand and jobs available for science/engineering graduates is definitely out there.
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10-29-2011, 02:20 AM
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I'm not getting excellent GPA, but they are OK. I have to work 40+ hours per week while being a full time student. I just don't have the time to study. My goal is to finish my degree and return home.


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I have taught college classes, and have encountered people who say they are just bad test takers, but guess what, these were the same people who would do poorly on their homework, hand in sloppy lab reports etc.
How did you get that teaching position? Is it an unpaid internship?
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I have taught college classes, and have encountered people who say they are just bad test takers, but guess what, these were the same people who would do poorly on their homework, hand in sloppy lab reports etc.

How did you get that teaching position? Is it an unpaid internship?
I have the same question.
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10-29-2011, 01:25 PM
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Being depressed will obviously not help. Evidence that depression only leads to more depression. I am undocumented-->depression-->poor grades--> more depression. It becomes a vicious cycle.

I might be slammed for thinking this way but optimism is the best way to go.

Then again, maybe you think its depression. Perhaps, you might be working and taking a full load and/or your major is freaking difficult.
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10-29-2011, 01:27 PM
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high school was super easy....college was a smooth trail....now university i feel dumb lol. the work load is heavier. if i try to manage work i fall short in school. if i concentrate in one class than another falls short. We are all smart the issue is stress. life hasn't been easy on us. we occupy ourselves with school and work to keep our minds away from the real issue of "what will happen nxt"...do u ever have an idle moment and your mind wanders and you start worrying or wonder why are u studying if it won't get you anywhere. u r studying but u can't put the knowledge into practice b/c of lack of papers to work. i so wish they will come with some kind of resolution to the CIR.
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10-29-2011, 01:35 PM
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high school was super easy....college was a smooth trail....now university i feel dumb lol. the work load is heavier. if i try to manage work i fall short in school. if i concentrate in one class than another falls short. We are all smart the issue is stress. life hasn't been easy on us. we occupy ourselves with school and work to keep our minds away from the real issue of "what will happen nxt"...do u ever have an idle moment and your mind wanders and you start worrying or wonder why are u studying if it won't get you anywhere. u r studying but u can't put the knowledge into practice b/c of lack of papers to work. i so wish they will come with some kind of resolution to the CIR.
Yes, but we have to stop thinking this way. Obviously, we are still here. Hence, we know deep down inside that we will one day be able to use that knowledge. So, why do we beat ourselves down so much? Come on guys; stop being depressed. Our day will come.

Again, feeling down or bad only leads to more problems.
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10-29-2011, 06:11 PM
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If you are lucky enough to find out early what skills and talents come naturally to you, regardless of education, you will succeed. I mean succeed in the context of our situation: If you are an undocumented immigrant, make decent money, have access to healthcare and have been able to build a resume and gain valuable work experience, then you are successful by the full meaning of the word. Work = contribution. Work that is needed and wanted is invaluable.

It is depressing, frustrating, unjust and irrational that we have yet to be allowed to earn status. But not having status gave me the skills and endurance to live frugally when needed, and most importantly, it taught me to lead a life full of independence and creativity. I found this bit of good news about an undocumented Mexican man who was recently granted status by an immigration judge after the relentless work done by his attorney. Please do read it, it relates to your doubts about education, just not in the way that most responses here think.

Cancellation Victory in Maryland
http://www.lexisnexis.com/Community/...-maryland.aspx

Posted by Daniel M. Kowalski
Gina Michele Takemori reports: "I am just beaming ear-to-ear as today my client of approximately six years has received a grant of Cancellation of Removal under section 240A(b)(1). He is Mexican, had a legal entry as an agricultural worker, has three U.S. Citizen minor children, one with severe asthma, and an undocumented wife. The case was previously granted by the Baltimore Immigration court, appealed by DHS, BIA sided with govt, I petitioned the 4th Circuit. 4th Circuit dismissed the case. I then filed a motion to reconsider to the BIA, BIA remanded to IJ on hardship issue for further fact-finding. Since the inception of the case, country conditions in Mexico have greatly changed and deteriorated due to the cartel violence. Respondent is from the region of Mexico which is at a cross-roads of cartel violence and many of his childhood friends have been murdered as innocent bystanders due to this violence. On remand, we produced more than 1200 pages of evidence as to how the removal of the Respondent would cause the three U.S. citizen children hardship at a level which meets the statutory burden, and proved that the change of country conditions warrant the exercise of the court's discretion. This is such a rare victory for a Mexican client! The IJ offered words of praise; she applauded the fact that I am a tenacious advocate for the Respondent and that I produced one of the most thorough records she has ever seen. I am overjoyed and want to share this news with other practitioners across the country to encourage them to keep up the fight. DHS waived their right to appeal this decision and a Final Order was issued today. I attach a redacted version of the Order. The man is the hardest working client I have ever known. He has no education - dropped out at 11 years old to help his family fish for a living. Now, he works here in MD as a certified commercial insulation installer and makes a whopping $80K per year. This was another of our arguments - we stated that this skill is not transferable to Mexico as the technical and trade does not exist there and he could not educate his children or support them in the fashion to which they are accustomed in the US. He works more than 80 hours per week and never complains. This is the face of America that we need to commit to fight for..... I am a very proud and happy mama today."

I hope this story makes you feel better about yourself.
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If you are lucky enough to find out early what skills and talents come naturally to you, regardless of education, you will succeed. I mean succeed in the context of our situation: If you are an undocumented immigrant, make decent money, have access to healthcare and have been able to build a resume and gain valuable work experience, then you are successful by the full meaning of the word. Work = contribution. Work that is needed and wanted is invaluable.

It is depressing, frustrating, unjust and irrational that we have yet to be allowed to earn status. But not having status gave me the skills and endurance to live frugally when needed, and most importantly, it taught me to lead a life full of independence and creativity. I found this bit of good news about an undocumented Mexican man who was recently granted status by an immigration judge after the relentless work done by his attorney. Please do read it, it relates to your doubts about education, just not in the way that most responses here think.

Cancellation Victory in Maryland
http://www.lexisnexis.com/Community/...-maryland.aspx

Posted by Daniel M. Kowalski
Gina Michele Takemori reports: "I am just beaming ear-to-ear as today my client of approximately six years has received a grant of Cancellation of Removal under section 240A(b)(1). He is Mexican, had a legal entry as an agricultural worker, has three U.S. Citizen minor children, one with severe asthma, and an undocumented wife. The case was previously granted by the Baltimore Immigration court, appealed by DHS, BIA sided with govt, I petitioned the 4th Circuit. 4th Circuit dismissed the case. I then filed a motion to reconsider to the BIA, BIA remanded to IJ on hardship issue for further fact-finding. Since the inception of the case, country conditions in Mexico have greatly changed and deteriorated due to the cartel violence. Respondent is from the region of Mexico which is at a cross-roads of cartel violence and many of his childhood friends have been murdered as innocent bystanders due to this violence. On remand, we produced more than 1200 pages of evidence as to how the removal of the Respondent would cause the three U.S. citizen children hardship at a level which meets the statutory burden, and proved that the change of country conditions warrant the exercise of the court's discretion. This is such a rare victory for a Mexican client! The IJ offered words of praise; she applauded the fact that I am a tenacious advocate for the Respondent and that I produced one of the most thorough records she has ever seen. I am overjoyed and want to share this news with other practitioners across the country to encourage them to keep up the fight. DHS waived their right to appeal this decision and a Final Order was issued today. I attach a redacted version of the Order. The man is the hardest working client I have ever known. He has no education - dropped out at 11 years old to help his family fish for a living. Now, he works here in MD as a certified commercial insulation installer and makes a whopping $80K per year. This was another of our arguments - we stated that this skill is not transferable to Mexico as the technical and trade does not exist there and he could not educate his children or support them in the fashion to which they are accustomed in the US. He works more than 80 hours per week and never complains. This is the face of America that we need to commit to fight for..... I am a very proud and happy mama today."

I hope this story makes you feel better about yourself.
Thank you for your post.

See, come on guys. Don't give up.
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