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Are you an EWI or Overstay? - Page 2

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I am an EWI 18 32.73%
I am an overstay 37 67.27%
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There's a poll/thread exactly like this one already. Are moderators not taking care of duplicates anymore? OP should have done a search first.
Its better to have an up to date poll.
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I don't mean to sound harsh, but some people are overstayers and they arrived before 15, but their visa didn't expire until after they were 18 and are now overstayers. To me they were adults an had the ability to make the decision of leaving, or adjusting. And should not benefit from the DREAM act. Like I said it's harsh thought, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but as an EWI when I was 6 I truly had no choice on whether to stay or go, and this became my home. Well if any of yall want to change my opinion go right ahead.
Whether and undocumented is an Overstay or an EWI. The child did not have a choice to come here even though their lives are so much better here then there. There are B1/b2 Visas that are given for 6 months and the renewable gets denied. Sure, it USA 18 is an Adult but they came here as a child and grew up as an American so where would they go? USA is the only country they know of. I can understand if they came here on a student visa F-1 at 18 and then went back after studies.

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I would be so happy if i was just an overstay. I could just adjust easily by marrying a USC (don't go saying things like "it's not that easy" because i call BS on that one), and at least you wouldn't have a ban.
It has to be a real love marriage. I think EWI's can get GC by marriage if fall under 245i?

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I got my visa on 2000 and it expired on 2010. B1/B2 visas, once you overstay your 6 months, you are already an illegal alien. It is not the expiration date of the visa that counts.
Wow, that was a long visa. Renewal denied?

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By the way, what does EWI stand for/mean? I'm taking it as the other route that is basically hardcore undocumented.
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Wow, that was a long visa. Renewal denied?
No, We never went back to try to renew it. I was afraid they would deny it, then we would have been stuck.
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No, We never went back to try to renew it. I was afraid they would deny it, then we would have been stuck.
It would not have hurt to try it though.
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04-29-2012, 08:08 PM
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I don't mean to sound harsh, but some people are overstayers and they arrived before 15, but their visa didn't expire until after they were 18 and are now overstayers. To me they were adults an had the ability to make the decision of leaving, or adjusting. And should not benefit from the DREAM act. Like I said it's harsh thought, and I don't mean to offend anyone, but as an EWI when I was 6 I truly had no choice on whether to stay or go, and this became my home. Well if any of yall want to change my opinion go right ahead.
Your opinion is garbage. You're alienating the Overstayers from benefiting on the DA. Since youre an EWI im assuming you came from a neighboring country. So, when you hit 18 you had a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country and apply legally here in the U.S. You know? to make things right. Since America doesn't know you were here all this time, you wouldnt fall into the 10 year ban. Unless of course, you go to INS and proclaimed that you're an EWI then they'll ban your ass. For us Overstayers, we came here by an airplane. We had documents that proves who we are and what country we came from. We had a proper visa to stay here but unfortunately it expired, hence the word "overstayed". Just like YOU, majority of the overstayers came here when they were little. Not knowing the truth of our status until we hit the adult age when we start wondering, " how come i cant work or how come i cant get a license". Now, we can't really "SNEAK" back to our country like YOU because that would mean we would have to swim to the ocean. And yes we can fly back there but you know we'll fall under the 10 year ban. So we have no choice but to live under this burden and hope that something would change. Yes, we can adjust by getting married but that's too risky. My point is, all of you EWI's have a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country under the U.S.'s nose and apply the right way without being banned. For us Overstayers, we cant do that. Most of us have thousands of miles of sea water to cross just to get back to our country.

So, my question is why do you think EWI deserves to benefit from the DA and Overstayers shouldn't?
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Your opinion is garbage. You're alienating the Overstayers from benefiting on the DA. Since youre an EWI im assuming you came from a neighboring country. So, when you hit 18 you had a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country and apply legally here in the U.S. You know? to make things right. Since America doesn't know you were here all this time, you wouldnt fall into the 10 year ban. Unless of course, you go to INS and proclaimed that you're an EWI then they'll ban your ass. For us Overstayers, we came here by an airplane. We had documents that proves who we are and what country we came from. We had a proper visa to stay here but unfortunately it expired, hence the word "overstayed". Just like YOU, majority of the overstayers came here when they were little. Not knowing the truth of our status until we hit the adult age when we start wondering, " how come i cant work or how come i cant get a license". Now, we can't really "SNEAK" back to our country like YOU because that would mean we would have to swim to the ocean. And yes we can fly back there but you know we'll fall under the 10 year ban. So we have no choice but to live under this burden and hope that something would change. Yes, we can adjust by getting married but that's too risky. My point is, all of you EWI's have a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country under the U.S.'s nose and apply the right way without being banned. For us Overstayers, we cant do that. Most of us have thousands of miles of sea water to cross just to get back to our country.




So, my question is why do you think EWI deserves to benefit from the DA and Overstayers shouldn't?


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Your opinion is garbage. You're alienating the Overstayers from benefiting on the DA. Since youre an EWI im assuming you came from a neighboring country. So, when you hit 18 you had a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country and apply legally here in the U.S. You know? to make things right. Since America doesn't know you were here all this time, you wouldnt fall into the 10 year ban. Unless of course, you go to INS and proclaimed that you're an EWI then they'll ban your ass. For us Overstayers, we came here by an airplane. We had documents that proves who we are and what country we came from. We had a proper visa to stay here but unfortunately it expired, hence the word "overstayed". Just like YOU, majority of the overstayers came here when they were little. Not knowing the truth of our status until we hit the adult age when we start wondering, " how come i cant work or how come i cant get a license". Now, we can't really "SNEAK" back to our country like YOU because that would mean we would have to swim to the ocean. And yes we can fly back there but you know we'll fall under the 10 year ban. So we have no choice but to live under this burden and hope that something would change. Yes, we can adjust by getting married but that's too risky. My point is, all of you EWI's have a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country under the U.S.'s nose and apply the right way without being banned. For us Overstayers, we cant do that. Most of us have thousands of miles of sea water to cross just to get back to our country.

So, my question is why do you think EWI deserves to benefit from the DA and Overstayers shouldn't?
I dont think it'd be a good idea for someone who is EWI to sneak back into his country then tell INS youve never been to the US because even though you might not have a record with INS, your name is on some record here in the US. You'd just make it worse.
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I do think it's less difficult being an overstay than an EWI, only because marriage doesn't require you to leave the country. That is it. Sneaking back to a neighboring country is ridiculous and the suggestion is about as retarded as suggesting that an overstay shouldn't benefit from the DREAM Act because they were 18 and were adults with the ability to do this and that. Also, anyone who believes that getting married is easy must be a pretty young blood who has little idea as to what the variables involved with the process are. Yes it is less difficult than an EWI, but if you think it's "easy" you need to grow up young grasshopper and stop believing that you know the answers to the world because marriage to a USC does not automatically mean legalization. If it did, then according to that reasoning, I'd have papers now wouldn't I?
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Your opinion is garbage. You're alienating the Overstayers from benefiting on the DA. Since youre an EWI im assuming you came from a neighboring country. So, when you hit 18 you had a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country and apply legally here in the U.S. You know? to make things right. Since America doesn't know you were here all this time, you wouldnt fall into the 10 year ban. Unless of course, you go to INS and proclaimed that you're an EWI then they'll ban your ass. For us Overstayers, we came here by an airplane. We had documents that proves who we are and what country we came from. We had a proper visa to stay here but unfortunately it expired, hence the word "overstayed". Just like YOU, majority of the overstayers came here when they were little. Not knowing the truth of our status until we hit the adult age when we start wondering, " how come i cant work or how come i cant get a license". Now, we can't really "SNEAK" back to our country like YOU because that would mean we would have to swim to the ocean. And yes we can fly back there but you know we'll fall under the 10 year ban. So we have no choice but to live under this burden and hope that something would change. Yes, we can adjust by getting married but that's too risky. My point is, all of you EWI's have a chance to "SNEAK" back to your country under the U.S.'s nose and apply the right way without being banned. For us Overstayers, we cant do that. Most of us have thousands of miles of sea water to cross just to get back to our country.

So, my question is why do you think EWI deserves to benefit from the DA and Overstayers shouldn't?
^This x 10. If that isn't one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen a fellow undocumented immigrant post, I just don't know what is. If the fact that we could have returned "home" after our visas expired once we became adults is why we (Overstays) shouldn't benefit from the DREAM Act, then why should you or any other EWI who's still here & is also now an adult, be allowed to stay & benefit from any such forgiving legislation?
You know, because now you're an adult and have the ability to make the decision of leaving, or adjusting, so you should just help yourself & the whole situation out by just returning 'home'.
So according to your very own reasoning, you shouldn't benefit from the DREAM Act either because you're now an adult who's still here & are therefore responsible for your unlawful presence, so you might as well return home to make things right, wouldn't you say? After-all, neither group had a say in whether or not they came here, but both groups have a say in whether or not they stay after they become adults right? So if one group shouldn't benefit from the DREAM Act the other shouldn't either right?

Also, if EWIs should be allowed to stay & benefit from the DREAM Act because they were brought here at an early age & therefore they "truly had no choice on whether to stay or go" and have since made this their home, then why shouldn't us Overstays be allowed to stay if we were also brought here at a young age & have stayed long enough for this to become our home?
What's the difference b/w an EWI & an Overstay being brought here under similar conditions (since neither had a say in coming or staying because of their age at the time), yet the EWIs should somehow be eligible for relief while the Overstays shouldn't be? Good luck explaining that one.

Your reasoning makes absolutely no sense from either direction, so I await your response that somehow makes sense of it. Somehow I doubt you'll be successful, but I believe in miracles so we'll see. Until shown otherwise, I firmly agree with iDream & the others that Overstays are just as deserving of & eligible for relief as the EWIs.

p.s. I don't post here often & I'm not familiar with your reputation here on the board, but after your opening post, I don't think very highly of your opinion & therefore will be inclined to ignore it in the future unless you pull one helluva rabbit outta your hat that explains what otherwise comes across as completely idiotic & self-centered. Like I said tho, good luck with that as I'm eagerly awaiting your response.
I should give you props tho, because that post is the singular reason I decided to post in this thread because I just had to see how you could spin things for it to make sense.

Unless, of course, you manage to find a way to explain yourself that makes sense & in that case, you'll have earned some respect from me. I hope you just had an off day like we all do & that what you meant to say just came out wrong. Your reply will answer that.

Oh &, "I don't mean to sound harsh", and "I don't mean to offend". Fair's fair right?
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B1/B2 are usually issued for 10 years. But that doesn't mean that folks can come here and stay for 10 years. The maximum amount of time you can stay is 6 months. After 6 months your I-94 will expire and if you stay even a day after the I-94 expiration date, your presence is considered illegal even though your visa doesn't expire until 10 years later.

There is a formal application process to extend your I-94 expiration date. It is very difficult to get an approval because it'd show your intent to live the US permanently f0r 10 years.

Unless you originally came here on a J1 or F1 visa, your legal stay was for SIX months or less regardless of your visa validity date. I-94 expiration date comes first!

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