Questions for Tomorrow: Contribute - Page 2

I thought it was fraud if you are using the person's name and information, not if you're only using his or her number.

I thought that it was only considered fraud If you were using someone else's number. Not if you were using some random out of the hat number which does not belong to anyone. Also, Once I used a number that was my dads second last name because they made a mistake when typing my name.

Well what I was referring was the random number that you buy in NY. By the way how do you know that it does not belong to anybody?

"The following are representative of violations that could result in criminal prosecution for Social Security fraud:
...
using a Social Security Number (SSN) obtained on the basis of false information or
falsely using the SSN of another person, for the purpose of obtaining or increasing a payment under Social Security or any other federally funded program, or for any other purpose;..."

http://www.justice.gov/usao/eousa/fo...m/usab5206.pdf

Isn't a person's name and information associated with his/her SSN?

I do not know if it belongs to anyone. But either way now I am worried. If this was true, I think a lot of us would be disqualified. FML, including me. I have always worked with fake ones. Never using anyone else's though.



I found this. I do not think it is reliable but...


Gives me some hope. If someone has a more reliable answer... Please answer....


http://www.justanswer.com/immigratio...ke-social.html




PLEASE!!!

When filling out an application you only put the SS# and your own real name and info. Both my father and mother used SS# that they bought in NY. I remember my father telling me a few years ago, that the court ruled that it is NOT a BIG DEAL of a crime of using somebody's else SS# because it is only a number. Now if you use it, and you use their name and information then it becomes A BIG crime. I don't have a source but that's what he told me (He may have misheard it on Univision, if he is wrong).

Also, I know a woman that got her papers through her father. She had to write a letter (apologizing) to immigration explaining why she was working in this country while she was illegal (with fake SS#).

Yes, I think the majority (80 to 90%) of us those who would benefit from this policy would be screwed. That being said, it's ironic that the Deferred Action FAQ/info sheet released on the 15th reports that employment records are suitable for the upcoming application . . . Ironic.

I think this is a VERY VERY important question.

Don't ask don't tell

let's not derail this thread.....

Q 2.1 (add to the other one)-Was the 'have proof of being here on the 15th clause' being misinterpreted? IOW, is it compulsory to have some documentation of that exact date.

You have to have proof of presence of that date; I think agent didn't know well what she was saying tbh... Basically she said that if that's what it says on there, then yes.

Q.15-What is meant by humanitarian in: 'Brief and innocent absences undertaken for humanitarian purposes will not violate this requirement.' (when referring to brief absences) IOW if some dude decided to go to his compadre's wedding and came back on his yet to expire border crossing visa.

Q.16- Will having crossed multiple times on a valid visa (non-resident type) bar the beneficiary from deferred action?

Can't tell, the reviewer of your case will make that determination. We are not giving legal advice


Q.17- Are dreamers of college age or older expected to be currently attending school to qualify? What of those w/degrees in hand?

Q.18- Will working for an American company overseas/elsewhere count against your stay in the 2yr period?


Q.???- Will renewal be rejected if upon renewal I reach the age of 30 or more?

Dunno, case specific, no legal advice...
PS: did you guys use your real name w/fake/borrowed ssn's? If not, then what's the worry?

If you mispelled the number once, fine. But if you are using the SSN multiple times and using it because you need to make a living, that is as severe as using the real name. In fact, faking SSN / using real SSN are subjected to both violation of state and federal laws.

Yes a few years ago there was a court that rule using faking SSN is not identity theft. But unlawfuly obtain benefits using fake SSN is still a crime, regardless.

PS: This thread is not about ssn.