Schumer says no dice for high-skilled immigration bill - Page 2

Originally Posted by DA User

STEM should be part of CIR.

Originally Posted by chlehqls

It's baiting and like I said, a red herring to throw us off of the track for the CIR. The GOP keep saying they want to introduce it, but they won't and we're back to square one.

As much as I like the DA to pass, it honestly won't. Not because of Democrats voting against it (A block of them will) but the GOP will give a Nay if it even comes up for talks.

And the fact that we're even having this discussion proves my red herring fallacy committed by the GOP doesn't it? All the talks and the initial premise of the Senate and President has been about the huge momentum of getting CIR passed. As soon as the GOP utter the DA, we're sitting here talking about the merits of it passing and the apathy of Congress. They're doing all they can do hype down the CIR because they know they have a lot more to lose than their Democratic counterparts. It's throwing us off the scent of the real prize, which is the CIR.

CIR actually having a chance to pass is wreaking havoc among the GOP base right now. The Tea party caucus knows that it has to be done, but their base won't stand for it, should they allow it to pass.

Originally Posted by MIdreamer

I agree that there are not as big of a chance for CIR as we all think right now. Only if we can show republicans how Latinos can help democrats regain the majority in the house in 2014, they might finally wake up. We need to get Latinos to be more involve in local election, not just the presidential election.

Originally Posted by circasurvive

Demographics play a larger role in state-level elections. The majority of GOP-controlled House seats are set in firmly white districts.

Originally Posted by EditorInChief

CIR should not include STEM and other guest worker programs.

STEM and guest workers programs and LGBT can only add complexity to CIR, making it difficult to pass.

CIR should only focus on legalization, dream kids, and border security.