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Senators agree on path to legal status for illegal immigrants - Page 2

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03-11-2013, 02:09 PM
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good thing I'm 19 and haven't had a job yet so I wouldn't need to pay back taxes


hopefully they have a special rule for dreamers...because 10 yr wait for a green card? notsureifsrs
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^^ Because Dick Durbin, the original creator of the Dream Act, is a member of the"Gang of 8" I highly doubt that the bill will not have the dream act. The dream act is supported by the president, and leaders of both the Democratic and Republican party.

Also, based on the language in Obama's "leaked" version of a immigration bill there is a SPECIAL RULE FOR CHILD ENTRANTS.

If you've been granted DACA you can for the "LPI" status but your application will be expedited because your eligibility and requirements for LPI would have already been satisfied during the DACA application process. Once you have your LPI status and you have completed at least 2 years of college or military service you can avoid the "back of the line" 10 year wait and immediately apply to adjust your status to Permanent Resident (aka Green Card). You can then get your citizenship a few years later.

And [immigration truth] you can travel in and out of the country under LPI. Now all of this is based on Obama's bill but the principals the senate has laid out are almost identical to the bill Obama has "leaked"

Also consider this:

Gang of 8 Members that support the dream act:

Dick Durbin - original architect
John McCain - cosponser of the bill 3 times before the GOP went too far right
Michael Bennet - cosponser
Robert Menendez - cosponser
Charles E. Schumer - cosponser

Gang of 8 members that kinda support the dream act:

Marco Rubio - offered an "alternative"
Jeff Flake - used to support the dream act but flip flopped in 2010 along with McCain as the GOP was going too far right.
Gang of 8 member who is kind of against the Dream act:

Lindsay Graham - although he voted against the DA is he open to a path to citizenship

So the DA is safe in the senate version with about 87% of the people crafting the immigration bill have either supported the DA in the past or are open to supporting it. You can even say 100% if you throw Lindsay Graham in there since he supports a pathway to citizenship. I don't see why he wouldn't support the DA.
I am eligible for DACA but I couldn't apply for it because I am under TPS. Would I still be able to have the expediate option? Or would have to have to go to the back of the line. I have all my paper proving I came here since I was seven, not to mention I have not left since then. Furthermore, I've never been convicted of a crime. Where can I see this proposed bill by Obama?
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03-11-2013, 02:43 PM
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Yeah because those people that did it "right" never crossed the border or overstayed their visas.

Tax evaders can be citizens, legal residents and illegal immigrants. Ditto for fraudulent income reporters. I know. I used to volunteer as a tax preparer. The IRS began issuing TIN numbers in 1996 to allow people to report income and meet their taxpayer obligations. Everyone is allowed to file and pay for their taxes, those who don't, choose not to do so.

Tax evasion is not an immigration status issue. Yes, we are undocumented; however, now that we are here, we choose the type of community member we want to be.

Reporting accurate income and paying all your taxes on time is doing the right.

What's your point? And aren't we all here because of your statement above? Your manner of entry or arrival doesn't prevent you from filing and paying your taxes.
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I am eligible for DACA but I couldn't apply for it because I am under TPS. Would I still be able to have the expediate option? Or would have to have to go to the back of the line. I have all my paper proving I came here since I was seven, not to mention I have not left since then. Furthermore, I've never been convicted of a crime. Where can I see this proposed bill by Obama?
There's a thread on this forum about the bill.. It's here: http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=39283

I'm far from a lawyer so I'm not giving you any legal advice and don't take what I say as legal advice. However, from what I know from my experience, you're not eligible for the DACA or the Dream Act because you are under TPS which means you have legal presence in this country. DACA and DA are for people with no legal status either because their legal status expired or they entered without inspection (crossed the border illegally).

When it comes to the Dream Act, according to Obama's bill which is just a draft and has not been released or anything like that, you will need to apply for LPI before you can adjust to permanent resident through the special rule for child entrants (the dream act). But you don't qualify for LPI because the grounds of ineligibility listed in Title 2 paragraph 2 says a person is inelgible to apply if that person " according to the records of the Secretary or the Secretary of State, is in a period of authorized stay in any nonimmigrant status". TPS is a non immigrant status.

But again this is from a draft of a bill that hasn't even been released. You should talk to a lawyer to see your options. I'm pretty sure if you search around you can find free consultations. I did.
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At least 10 years?...Holy cow...
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There's a thread on this forum about the bill.. It's here: http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=39283

I'm far from a lawyer so I'm not giving you any legal advice and don't take what I say as legal advice. However, from what I know from my experience, you're not eligible for the DACA or the Dream Act because you are under TPS which means you have legal presence in this country. DACA and DA are for people with no legal status either because their legal status expired or they entered without inspection (crossed the border illegally).

When it comes to the Dream Act, according to Obama's bill which is just a draft and has not been released or anything like that, you will need to apply for LPI before you can adjust to permanent resident through the special rule for child entrants (the dream act). But you don't qualify for LPI because the grounds of ineligibility listed in Title 2 paragraph 2 says a person is inelgible to apply if that person " according to the records of the Secretary or the Secretary of State, is in a period of authorized stay in any nonimmigrant status". TPS is a non immigrant status.

But again this is from a draft of a bill that hasn't even been released. You should talk to a lawyer to see your options. I'm pretty sure if you search around you can find free consultations. I did.
Alright, I see the bill, even though it is a draft bill. I have all the requirements to be eligible for the dreamact. I just don't renew my TPS (IF) Obama or Congress ever does pass a bill.
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03-11-2013, 04:21 PM
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I am eligible for DACA but I couldn't apply for it because I am under TPS. Would I still be able to have the expediate option? Or would have to have to go to the back of the line. I have all my paper proving I came here since I was seven, not to mention I have not left since then. Furthermore, I've never been convicted of a crime. Where can I see this proposed bill by Obama?
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Alright, I see the bill, even though it is a draft bill. I have all the requirements to be eligible for the dreamact. I just don't renew my TPS (IF) Obama or Congress ever does pass a bill.

But you want to be careful. One of the requirements of DACA is that your immigration status expired on or before June 15, 20102 so you might want to look out for that. What if there's a provision in the CIR bill that says in order to qualify your immigration status had to have expired on or before the date it is enacted? You should definitely look into talking to a lawyer before you make a critical decision.
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But you want to be careful. One of the requirements of DACA is that your immigration status expired on or before June 15, 20102 so you might want to look out for that. What if there's a provision in the CIR bill that says in order to qualify your immigration status had to have expired on or before the date it is enacted? You should definitely look into talking to a lawyer before you make a critical decision.
I did not know about that jun 15, 2012 requirement... I'll wait until a complete version of the bill comes out and then see if a lawyer will be required, if it does make my case become complicated.
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what are the requirement for dreamers? instant green card?
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Tax evaders can be citizens, legal residents and illegal immigrants. Ditto for fraudulent income reporters. I know. I used to volunteer as a tax preparer. The IRS began issuing TIN numbers in 1996 to allow people to report income and meet their taxpayer obligations. Everyone is allowed to file and pay for their taxes, those who don't, choose not to do so.

Tax evasion is not an immigration status issue. Yes, we are undocumented; however, now that we are here, we choose the type of community member we want to be.

Reporting accurate income and paying all your taxes on time is doing the right.

What's your point? And aren't we all here because of your statement above? Your manner of entry or arrival doesn't prevent you from filing and paying your taxes.
I was being sarcastic, the person that made the comment complained at how he did everything "right" yet would have to wait for those who didn't. In order words he was being a hypocrite, doing everything "right" would mean not overstaying or crossing the border.

People need to start getting sarcasm.
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