What is your ideal future scenario? - Page 2

Who/What is "pol" ?
I'm a naturalized citizen, came here in the early 2000s. Took me almost 15 yrs to get GC and subsequently citizenship. Arrived in US thru work visa sponsorship.

Getting a green card thru EB(employment based) was not too difficult until Dec 2000.
I remember Bill Clinton passed some amnesty scheme called 245(i) that enabled people(visa overstay or never had a visa) to apply for amnesty in EB3 category and that messed up the green card process for a lot of work visa holders. The after-effect lasted almost 12 years => anybody that applied for EB3 between April-December 2001 received their GC in 2012/2013.

Without increasing the quota for DACA holders, DACA applicants and legal immigrants would be staring at another decade or two before they get the green card.

Pass CIR with pathway to citizenship. Make every illegal immigrant apply and perform criminal background checks. Then make them pay back taxes and a 100,000 fine over 10 years time. Conditional green card until 100,000 paid then you can have permanent residence. The money from the fine will be put towards improving and preventing further illegal immigrants migrations. 12,000,000,000,000 will appease the right base. 100,000 is same amount coyotes make from illegal immigrants.

/pol/ is a board from 4chan

Can you elaborate on "legal immigrant currently in the process"? Dream Act bill would only give provisional status and would take about a decade. Does that mean you support a stand alone Dream Act bill?

Path to legalization for Dreamers
Border security
Work permits for those that have been here for a really long time.
E-VERIFY
Wall

There are thousands of others that have followed the immigration rules and patiently waiting for their time in the green card queue. They could be (parents, spouses, children under 21, siblings ) of sponsors, employment based (EB) category holders, investors, people of exceptional ability etc. It'd be unfair to all the above category immigrants if DACA holders were given preference ahead of them. I'd say , place all DACA holders at the end of the line. Otherwise, there'd be no meaning to the legal process.

That's why I said, if the quota is not increased, all DACA and legal immigrants would take a decade (or more) to get their GC.

While we are at the end of this "line" what status would we be in? Again...would you support a stand alone DA bill?

That's not right. I came in late 1990s, before you did, and went thru all the right channels. Entered with insp, applied for proper visa and then GC.

I was on my way to GC and didn't qualify for the amnesty obviously but then my applic got messed up in processing....and they revoked it. I was back to square one with no option to switch to another visa - even if I wanted to. Had already paid a significant amount in attorney fees.

So it's offensive when people say "go to the back of the line." It's broken. The entire system is broken. I wish it weren't but that's the truth. It's just a matter of luck, that's all.

There is no way for any Daca recipient to get on a visa. We would gladly do that....while we stay here, study/work and pay taxes. None of us chose to come here. We've spent the time (maybe longer) than those who were in the line. Which is what the DA does - it gives us that chance.

We are willing to pay the fines. We want to contribute - get higher paying jobs and pay taxes. Give back to the communities that educated us and gave us so much...and made us essentially who we are as adults now. We are Americans.

There should be a path to legalization for Dreamers in exchange for border security.

And if I could so kindly add - immigrants who did enter and break the laws as you say - did so because they had no option.

Many came for better opportunities and/or due to concerns about the safety of their children. No one willingly wants to live in America as an undocumented immigrant. I'm sure all undocumented immigrants would have gladly entered thru the right channels if their circumstances were different. It's not exactly a picnic ....not for them or their children. Not being able to drive at 16 or miss out on SB with friends, or go on a school field trip, or travel overseas for work.



DACA recipients are Americans - in every way except documentation. If you were to pass us say in the mall - I doubt you would guess that some of us were DACA recip. We go to the same schools as you/your kids, are your neighbors, coworkers, etc.

As for others, I think non-DACA folks should get work permits - and at least have a chance to apply for visas. That is not amnesty - it's simply allowing them to get to the back of the line and go thru the proper channels. I think everyone deserves a second chance.