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Even if they are biologically different, you would need a sound scientific explanation to prove that claim that they are more emotional.

You mention a double standard. The bouncer let your girlfriend in for free while asking for $20. That's sexism.

In a similar way, you think women who show emotion should be given leeway while men showing emotion should not be treated with extra leniency. That is another sexist double standard.


I'm done now. I just call problematic things out because I have higher expectations of my fellow Dreamers than I have for the general population lol.
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Even if they are biologically different, you would need a sound scientific explanation to prove that claim that they are more emotional.

You mention a double standard. The bouncer let your girlfriend in for free while asking for $20. That's sexism.

In a similar way, you think women who show emotion should be given leeway while men showing emotion should not be treated with extra leniency. That is another sexist double standard.


I'm done now. I just call problematic things out because I have higher expectations of my fellow Dreamers than I have for the general population lol.

I can find something scientific for you. I’m on my lunch break so I can’t do my research. But please, hold me accountable.

I know you said you were gay in a previous post. This doesn't exclude sexual orientation. You can think from experience and you will see this also holds true. Now, I don’t know if you are male or female, but that is irrelevant. Even in same sex relationships, there is going to be one partner that displays more feminine traits and the other more masculine. A healthy functioning relationship will demonstrate that.

In my relationship, my girlfriend is the one with the feminine traits. She worries a lot, vents about her job - co workers, and has emotional moments. I don’t give her unsolicited advice, I just listen and let her express herself. From an outsiders view, one would think she’s overreacting and you know what? What she’s worried about just might be something that someone with a stoic way of thinking would easily brush off. Still, I don’t judge her for it. I can tell she feels better after she lets out all her emotional baggage and we move on to a more fun topic.

Now, can you imagine if I acted the same? If I thought it was okay as someone with more masculine traits, to unleash my emotional baggage - to engage in an “equal” display of emotions: "Hi sweetheart, my day was so stressful today. Little Jimmy and little Suzy were so rude. I felt like they were excluding me in today's meeting. This isn't the first time they made me feel this way. I am really upset. I don't have to feel this way, I'm going to talk to the supervisor and tell him that I don't feel included in the team...."

My gf may show genuine sympathy for me; however, it won't feel right to her. She may want to tell me to stop being such a little b***h and she would be right. I have to be her rock when the storm plows through.

Masculinity and femininity complement each other. Don't let the SJW and the fire-breathing feminist tell you that men and women are equal. You can believe it if you want, but don't be surprised when a relationship doesn't work out.


I do want to thank you; however, for sharing your thoughts.
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Why are you guys having such a dumb discussion? Emotional expression, hormones, strength etc are all on a spectrum. You can make some generalizations on average, but there will always be instances where someone is an outlier. The real question is why do you even care if a 'man' is 'emotional'? What difference does it make to you? Either make a proper argument based on facts or gtfo.
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Why are you guys having such a dumb discussion? Emotional expression, hormones, strength etc are all on a spectrum. You can make some generalizations on average, but there will always be instances where someone is an outlier. The real question is why do you even care if a 'man' is 'emotional'? What difference does it make to you? Either make a proper argument based on facts or gtfo.
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Why are you guys having such a dumb discussion? Emotional expression, hormones, strength etc are all on a spectrum. You can make some generalizations on average, but there will always be instances where someone is an outlier. The real question is why do you even care if a 'man' is 'emotional'? What difference does it make to you? Either make a proper argument based on facts or gtfo.
Thank you for taking the time to provide us with your insight. We appreciate your interest in this discussion.
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I can find something scientific for you. I’m on my lunch break so I can’t do my research. But please, hold me accountable.

I know you said you were gay in a previous post. This doesn't exclude sexual orientation. You can think from experience and you will see this also holds true. Now, I don’t know if you are male or female, but that is irrelevant. Even in same sex relationships, there is going to be one partner that displays more feminine traits and the other more masculine. A healthy functioning relationship will demonstrate that.

In my relationship, my girlfriend is the one with the feminine traits. She worries a lot, vents about her job - co workers, and has emotional moments. I don’t give her unsolicited advice, I just listen and let her express herself. From an outsiders view, one would think she’s overreacting and you know what? What she’s worried about just might be something that someone with a stoic way of thinking would easily brush off. Still, I don’t judge her for it. I can tell she feels better after she lets out all her emotional baggage and we move on to a more fun topic.

Now, can you imagine if I acted the same? If I thought it was okay as someone with more masculine traits, to unleash my emotional baggage - to engage in an “equal” display of emotions: "Hi sweetheart, my day was so stressful today. Little Jimmy and little Suzy were so rude. I felt like they were excluding me in today's meeting. This isn't the first time they made me feel this way. I am really upset. I don't have to feel this way, I'm going to talk to the supervisor and tell him that I don't feel included in the team...."

My gf may show genuine sympathy for me; however, it won't feel right to her. She may want to tell me to stop being such a little b***h and she would be right. I have to be her rock when the storm plows through.

Masculinity and femininity complement each other. Don't let the SJW and the fire-breathing feminist tell you that men and women are equal. You can believe it if you want, but don't be surprised when a relationship doesn't work out.


I do want to thank you; however, for sharing your thoughts.
I said I was done and I am truly done. I disagree with you and I'm sure you know that.

On the issue at hand, last night I was truly concerned that this would change negotiations completely. But this morning has changed my view. I think it would be seriously hypocritical if the Republicans took this seriously after they explicitly said DACA was unconstitutional. I truly expect that they will still get this done this month especially since they have all come to the conclusion that a permanent fix is necessary instead of a temporary one (even Goodlatte's apartheid bill provided some sort of permanence). Does anyone have any updates on whether the text of his bill was released yet?
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Can we please close this thread?
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I said I was done and I am truly done. I disagree with you and I'm sure you know that.

On the issue at hand, last night I was truly concerned that this would change negotiations completely. But this morning has changed my view. I think it would be seriously hypocritical if the Republicans took this seriously after they explicitly said DACA was unconstitutional. I truly expect that they will still get this done this month especially since they have all come to the conclusion that a permanent fix is necessary instead of a temporary one (even Goodlatte's apartheid bill provided some sort of permanence). Does anyone have any updates on whether the text of his bill was released yet?
This is the bill, no?

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Hse Judiciary cmte chair Goodlatte along w/Homeland Security Cmte chair McCaul & Reps Labrador & McSally to roll out immigration bill at 3:30 pm et today
https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...63724991221760

Edit: here's the thread http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=80075
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Man. If you are a female, I give you more leverage to freak out; however, if you are a man. Smh.
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This is the bill, no?



https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/stat...63724991221760

Edit: here's the thread http://dreamact.info/forum/showthread.php?t=80075
Yep. That's the one I was referring to.
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