Durbin and Graham introduce bill to protect ‘dreamers’ - Page 2

Dems should move on from the investigations and “try” work with Trump, this can pass the Senate and obviously the House.

they got like 18 months till the election, mayne.

Depends tbh. Some Hispanics are conservative because of their religious beliefs, but shy away from the Republican party due to their anti-illegal immigration stance.

Then you have those that came here legally that oppose any form of amnesty to illegals. So, they won't be convinced.

Here we go again!

Most people had no idea what Trump was going to do in regards to immigration before he was elected. I think most of the hispanic population voted for him because they wanted jobs & better pay. Everything else they took lightly because he's an entertainer so he exaggerates. He made some negative statements but I think people had no idea how aggressive he would be.

With the child separation policy and his extreme rhetoric, people will definitely take notice. You have news articles where a father is deported and his wife voted for Trump, she says she didn't think they would deport her husband.

At minimum, it would make the republican hispanics reconsider someone who actively demonizes their race. Small stuff like you can't get a job because you're hispanic or something big. If a hate crime happens because that person is hispanic, the person doing harm isn't going to ask "hey did you vote for Trump before I hurt you?" If the hispanic population doesn't seriously consider this then they're shooting themselves in the foot. Then again, coming on this forum I can see people wouldn't care even though it'll eventually end up hurting themselves. However, it is my hope that common sense or even self-preservation prevails.

Not that I think this has a chance in hell of passing but what version of the Dream Act is it? Is it the one without age limit?

"A pessimist doesn't see the sunset outside, he sees the dirt on the window."

Jim Rohn

If Joe Biden wins and the dems retain the House, I can see the gang of 8 coming back together.

All of you FORGET that Biden had extensive Senate relationships. Once the House passes CIR or just some generous DACA bill, the Senate would probably be the place to push for as many GOP votes.

The Senate could stay GOP but by a smalled margin, making bipartisan legislation the only bills to pass on immigration.

If the Dems win back the Senate, House and Presidency, CIR would probably pass the so much needed Senate to become law.

-I could see the compromise include:
>Billions of dollars for enforcement and border security
(Yes wall money would be part of it, just not the huge monolith Trump envisions)
>Complete overhaul of family-based sponsorship for immigrant status
>High fees
>Requirement of English knowledge
>More worker visas (Labor Unions will not be happy)
>Enforcement of Everify and HIGH penalties for companies that hire undocumented workers.
>Moderately long pathway to citizenship for all

But then again, anything can happen 😅

BIDEN/HARRIS 2020

I am 100% conservative. A true Mexican is conservative. You can tell which are the Americanized Mexicans by how left leaning they are, broken Spanish, limp handshake, and how they won't look you in the eyes, how they are skinny, and how they recoil in horror from the sun.


A true Mexican stands tall and proud with their tall and proud Latin American comrades. Hand in hand in a shared identity. Winning.


It is unfortunate that some hate their Homeland so much, they turn their back on the motherland. However it is already wirtten in their DNA, and in their minds. Pretending to be Anglo won't make them any more Anglo. It won't change anything. The Anglo will not treat us as equals until forced to. And even then only reluctantly.

Two factors that are in favor this time :-

1) House is controlled by Dems - Dream Act (with any eligibility criteria) will PASS the house when it's put to vote (sometime in May, as per Jerry Nadler - NY congressman)

2) Senate Judiciary Committee is chaired by Lindsey Graham - probably the staunchest supporter of Dream Act within Republicans, it is the first time, that when Dream and Promise Act is brought to Senate after passing House, it will have some chance of seeing the light of day --- because the person in-charge of leading negotiations within Republican caucus will be Lindsey Graham.

In any case, still a bit hard for McConnell to put Dream Act to vote but chances are better.

I still think if an immigration bill passes both chambers - Trump will sign it.

What he said... ugghhh someone take us off this roller-coaster. My heart can't take it anymore.