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Someone else said it before, but it's so obvious that they're approving the newer cases super quickly to bring down their "average processing time" while the older apps are in queue.
Well, so much for some of us trying to be proactive about sending our apps in on time... Clearly, I should have procrastinated and sent mine in a month and a half before expiring. I'm considering sending my next application 7 or 8 months before expiration. I can't do this again.
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FOR A FEW OF US IN THE OTHER HAND.......
The data entry information in the encrypted bulk files sent to ELIS, never made it, you know why, because in 99.99% of the cases we did not receive the biometrics (duh) appointment or a myUSCIS Account receipt with an access code.
I'm in the 8/17 block of expired EADs and I applied April 13. I got an access code letter and a biometrics appointment within days after applying.
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I'm in the 8/17 block of expired EADs and I applied April 13. I got an access code letter and a biometrics appointment within days after applying.
I wasn't speaking for people who got bios. Just people who have not received bios. My next paragraph deals with pending applications after bios. In any case this is just a wild guess based on small 'plausible' information.
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(WARNING THIS IS MY OWN PERSON THEORY BASED ON THE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION PROVIDED BY OTHER USERS, ABOUT POSSIBLE DATA CORRUPTION ISSUES WHICH CAUSED FEB-MAY APPLICATIONS TO BE DELAYED)
Good find and good read, I just read both files u linked. Two things jumped out, 1. There's no mention of manually inputting info into system based on application, which I guess that means your application should be typed, if one handwrites them, it would be hard for the computer to recognize one's handwriting. 2. It clearly states that the Uscis personal, ones at the proper level, can manually schedule biometric. So for those who have not recieved the bio after months yet, you can try to call and ask for higher tires to set the date, or try at the you local uscis center and ask them via an infopass.
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I talked to a Tier II rep like three times. They asked if I put in service requests and then basically told me to wait, wait and wait. The one I talked to yesterday actually said he noted on my case that bio needs to be scheduled but we will see if it will actually come before 9/7.

Officer at infopass scheduled my bio appt linked to my last renewal and the appt date wasn't until two days after my exp date, which is 10/09. He told me to walk in. Sucks that infopass appt are like two weeks in advance so now I have to wait until 8/31 to talk to them again. I thought those were internal application references until I found my old bio notice. Pretty much just been going around in circles for 70+ days. Having to wait 15 days before calling again is a pain too.

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Good find and good read, I just read both files u linked. Two things jumped out, 1. There's no mention of manually inputting info into system based on application, which I guess that means your application should be typed, if one handwrites them, it would be hard for the computer to recognize one's handwriting. 2. It clearly states that the Uscis personal, ones at the proper level, can manually schedule biometric. So for those who have not recieved the bio after months yet, you can try to call and ask for higher tires to set the date, or try at the you local uscis center and ask them via an infopass.
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(WARNING THIS IS MY OWN PERSON THEORY BASED ON THE ANECDOTAL INFORMATION PROVIDED BY OTHER USERS, ABOUT POSSIBLE DATA CORRUPTION ISSUES WHICH CAUSED FEB-MAY APPLICATIONS TO BE DELAYED)

Anyone possibly out on leave or off work and very interested in learning how the ELIS system works and where it possible EFF up for people requiring bios or final adjudication.
https://www.dhs.gov/publication/dhsu...tem-uscis-elis
https://www.dhs.gov/publication/dhsu...eduling-system

Read the PIA which is the Privacy Impact Assessment, which reviews how a process works related to the personal and private information provided to make sure there have been checks and the information is only used for the intended purpose. These are very interesting because they pretty much show you an insider view of the "Process".

For my own woes, Lack of Biometric Appointment after 123 or 124 days, lost count.....
Basically ELIS is suppose to be the future of adjudication or process management for USCIS, they have been including various benefit adjudication processes through this electronic system for about 4 years or so.

The gist of the system:
You send in your application.
Lockbox scans.
Sends to ELIS. Formerly sends straight to CLAIMS 3 or 4 (previous case management system)
ELIS automatically checks various biographical identifiers - Name, DOB, A#, etc.
ELIS does a preliminary / first level background check
  • Validates A# provided via CIS (a master file storage system) - which has previously stored an alien paper file prior to this electronic system
  • Concurrently, checks if you are listed as removable / recently deportable etc, with CBP, using the TECS database - this also does a NAME CHECK
  • A# is validated - information is sent to NASS (National Appointment Scheduling Service) BIOMETRICS APPOINTMENT STARTS HERE
At the ASC your biometrics are saved and send for the second level background checks
.............. BBSS, FBI, IBIS, IDENT etc... all the legacy background check databases

Once all these come back it is placed on queue for your case adjudicator (caseworker) to review and approve or reject your application.

Most of these systems are automated, and instantaneous, with encrypted batch data delivery varying, since most of this data is requested in bulk. Almost 70% will come back "No Records" from FBI Name Check and Fingerprint check, so its not a huge lag, which in 48 hours.

As you can see its not a very difficult process from start to finish.

My theory to how they eff up the biometric stage is as follows:
The legacy processing of applications involved several layers of human input, which i believe still exist. Once the applications are received at the Lockbox they are electronically transmitted to the service center and the CLAIMS 3 system stored all the info provided in the applications, then automated systems completed the middle process, SNAP was utilized to schedule and track biometrics, and background check results, but this was inputted by humans after the Service Center finished the CLAIMS 3 input.

I still believe that someone at the Lockbox level or at the Service Center still populates ELIS to allow for the rest of the systems to work. The encrypted bulk data files that would populate our new ELIS accounts, would automatically trigger the creation of myUSCIS Account via notice with Access Code (hint hint). ELIS account is created, and all the magic noted above can happen, that is why people got their biometric appointment and got the myUSCIS Account Notice with the access code very soon or at the same time.

FOR A FEW OF US IN THE OTHER HAND.......
The data entry information in the encrypted bulk files sent to ELIS, never made it, you know why, because in 99.99% of the cases we did not receive the biometrics (duh) appointment or a myUSCIS Account receipt with an access code.
Why they didn't make it, take your pick, corruption, damage, did not send, got sent but suffer system errors, had errors, i don't know.......... But remember this:



So there you have it, as confirmed by USCIS Customer Service via email, my info was just recently re-entered, yet I have yet to received an appointment, which leads me to believe the issue still exists and they still have not fixed broken applications.

As for adjudications, also take a wild guess, the encrypted data packages that are suppose to make it back to ELIS, did those become corrupted as well, and that is why people are still pending background checks?? Why people are not even in queue with the adjudicator even though the biometrics have been received and processed.

I cannot even start to understand the multiple layers of possible issues, especially with a young system like ELIS, and the integration and communications between legacy systems. And now there is probably a few IT guys trying to rip apart these corrupted files to repackage the received information, and allow for the adjudication of these forgotten files, and as have been seen, has been painstakingly slow.

Now to sleep.... :/
Very interesting and thank you for that. I see that at the first level ELIS runs a name check. Has anyone had to disclose a different name used on the DACA application, and has that caused problems before?
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My eAD expired 08/17
and all my calls the reps said they have everything - Streamlined approved" and today in response to my inquiry about my case I get this response:
Good afternoon,

This e-mail is in response to the inquiry regarding your Form I-821D, Consideration of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, and Form I-765, Application for Employment Authorization, which was filed with U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on March 31, 2016. The Nebraska Service Center (NSC) is currently processing DACA renewal cases received prior to March 16, 2016. There is no authorization to allow expedited processing of DACA renewals.

USCIS records indicate that your DACA case received an initial review by an officer. However, a background check process was subsequently initiated in your case; and it is not yet complete.
Please note that a small percentage of immigration applications and petitions have unresolved background check issues that can delay adjudication. Although USCIS makes every effort to resolve such cases promptly, USCIS is unable to determine when the background check process will be completed in your case. If a background check reveals an issue that may impact eligibility for a requested immigration benefit, further inquiry is needed. The inquiry may include an interview and/or contact with another agency or USCIS office for updates or more comprehensive information. Upon gathering and assessing all available information, USCIS will adjudicate the application as quickly as possible.

The National Customer Service Center’s toll free number is 1 800 375 5283 or you may access the CIS web site at www.uscis.gov should you have any further questions or need additional information.

Regards,

USCIS Nebraska Service Center


what do they mean by " However, a background check process was subsequently initiated in your case; and it is not yet complete."
Anyone else have a similar response?
What confuses is me why the initial background check is what is supposedly holding up issuance of your EAD. You already did bios at an ASC, right? Passing an initial background check, I believe, is a prerequisite for scheduling your appointment at the ASC.
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So what happens to applicants before February 14...?
I have no idea! The fact that they don't feel like they have to explain themselves is what gets me. Why don't they mention the reason why it might take so long? Why can't they just admit that they messed up? I'm calling Monday to see why they say.
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So what happens to applicants before February 14...?
You should send them an email via your ELIS account and see what they tell you. Just sign in and click under contact us. They reply faster than the normal case request.
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I submitted an inquiry about my EAD and got the below response:

"The status of this service request is:

We have received your inquiry stating that your Consideration of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (Form I-821D) is beyond the expected six month processing period. U.S. and Immigration Services (USCIS) is making every effort to process these cases within the stated time frame and hope to adjudicate your case in the near future. However, at this time we cannot provide a specific date on which a final decision will be made on your request for deferred action.

We hope this information is helpful and appreciate your continued patience."
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