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Official Copy of S. 3992 AKA the DREAM Act - Page 3

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Why isn't that fair? That's what the DREAM Act is meant to do.
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It really isn't fair for those who have been fighting for this since it was first introduced. Hopefully, they can work something out but at the end of the day this whole thing might just fail and none of us will get anything.
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Why isn't that fair? That's what the DREAM Act is meant to do.

So you think its fair for a person who did not graduated from HS to obtain the same benefits as a person who has a HS diploma and went to college paying out of state fees?
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So you think its fair for a person who did not graduated from HS to obtain the same benefits as a person who has a HS diploma and went to college paying out of state fees?
As long as they get their GED and go to college, yeah it is. I don't see the problem.
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So you think its fair for a person who did not graduated from HS to obtain the same benefits as a person who has a HS diploma and went to college paying out of state fees?
No one is as lucky as you who could be able to finish HS and afford college.

Please be considerate that a lot of kids have to drop out of high school and work in order to support their family. If you are an undocumented students, I'm sure you understand all the hardship that DREAMer has to face on a daily basis.

Also, the folks, who didn't complete highschool, will later face tremendously hardship to get a GED and get a college degree. So, is that already a harsh punishment for them to relearn everything and spend way more than the usual 4 years to get a college degree? Since you already completed a college degree, good for you. Now you could sit back, go to work, and enjoy the next 10 years of your life. However, for kids who dropped out of highschool and have little education background, they'll face tremendous challenges to get a college degree in the next 10 years.

The purpose of Dream Act is to give people a chance to achieve the American Dream. So, let's give kids who grow up as American a chance to achieve their American Dream. However, I'm saddened that 30+ year old DREAMers are excluded from the current DA legislation.
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No one is as lucky as you who could be able to finish HS and afford college.

Please be considerate that a lot of kids have to drop out of high school and work in order to support their family. If you are an undocumented students, I'm sure you understand all the hardship that DREAMer has to face on a daily basis.

Also, the folks, who didn't complete highschool, will later face tremendously hardship to get a GED and get a college degree. So, is that already a harsh punishment for them to relearn everything and spend way more than the usual 4 years to get a college degree? Since you already completed a college degree, good for you. Now you could sit back, go to work, and enjoy the next 10 years of your life. However, for kids who dropped out of highschool and have little education background, they'll face tremendous challenges to get a college degree in the next 10 years.

The purpose of Dream Act is to give people a chance to achieve the American Dream. So, let's give kids who grow up as American a chance to achieve their American Dream. However, I'm saddened that 30+ year old DREAMers are excluded from the current DA legislation.
could not have said it better myself.

I started to work months after the 9/11 attacks after my dad lost two jobs simultaneously, its when they started to all of a sudden check everyone's status, making raids on factories and televising them. We actually saw the place which my dad left a few months later being raided by INS and appearing on t.v. because there were a few people trying to escape through the roof and the news station had a camera in the sky.

In any case, at 13 I was working in a warehouse, and I was going through school, it was sure as hell not easy, I literally had a non-existent social life through middle and high school, apart from what I could get in-between classes.

and like victor85 mentioned above, the folks that did not complete high school will have a tough time getting that GED, they will be picking up from where they left probably a long time ago, going to classes with a bunch of adults, when they potentially have to juggle more work in between classes, less accountability, it would literally look like a community college with professors that might not care much, and on top of that they are going to attend community college in an attempt to get an AA degree at least. I mean they have all the odds stacked up against them, I would be surprised if someone could find a figure that would show GED people having a greater likely hood of getting a college degree then those that go right into classes from high school. I would have preferred that they graduated from high school if they had a chance, but, its hard to go through high school when all the signs around you advertise that as an undocumented immigrant you can't go to college and so there is this mentality of... what's the point. When I was a Junior in high school, I did not know it was possible to get into college and I was really starting to freak out because I was attending a school with an impeccable record where every student that got accepted in its history had been able to get into college, 100% graduation rate, 100% going to college, and I was afraid I was going to be the one that did not go to college because of my status and ruin that impeccable record, lol.
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What about those kids that aren't even in high school yet? (e.g. my brother, who is only 12). Would he have to wait until he's done with high school?
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What about those kids that aren't even in high school yet? (e.g. my brother, who is only 12). Would he have to wait until he's done with high school?
he just made it, apparently, they have to be twelve by the time the bill passes, he has a year after he graduates high school to apply.

My question now is whether everyone serves the same 10 year conditional period or the 10 year conditional period depends on the time you apply for the DREAM Act.
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