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US government takes $60,000 from immigrant? - Page 3

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#21
10-03-2007, 08:40 PM
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He should have paid the taxes but last I checked USCIS & ICE were not the tax man ..
Did they like personally keep it or did they give to IRS ?????
The reason why they took it was because it was over 10 grand.Any amount of money on a person that is not declared in advance that exceeds 10 grand can be seized by ICE whether leaving or coming into the United States which is why they seized it.
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If he didn't pay taxes then too fucking bad...he should get NOTHING.

I now have absolutely zero tolerance for crime.
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Here's what immigration lawyer Greg Siskind has to say about the Pedro matter:

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OK, I put that line in for my kids who love the film Napoleon Dynamite. This is the story of Pedro Zapeta, a Guatemalan dishwasher in Stuart, Florida for the last 13 years who worked hard and saved virtually all of his money by doing things like riding his bike to work and not having much of a life. His dream was to buy a piece of land back in Guatemala for himself and his mother. Unbelievably, he managed to save $59,000, money he kept in cash at his home. Tired of his life in Florida, he was ready to go home.

Unfortunately, Pedro didn't know about US customs laws. He took a duffel bag with his savings, went to the airport and was ready to board the flight when, you guessed it, Customs officials seized the money. US laws bar one from taking more than $10,000 outside the US without declaring it ahead of time. The US doesn't want to return the money even though Pedro is offering to pay any taxes that may be owing (incidentally, he probably doesn't owe taxes because his income was too low, so before people get all in a huff about him being a tax cheat, chew on that one).

Here's a guy who is not a criminal and just wants to go home. If we had any decency as a country, we would give this man back his hard-earned savings and wish him well.
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How was his income too low? If he had 60,000 after 11 years that would mean that he must've made almost $5500 in profit every year. Are you gonna tell me that he lived on $100 a year? He must've spent money on food and housing right? This would put him in a low tax bracket. Tax non-payment fines would amount to more than 60,000 at this point.

I'm no lawyer but taxes aren't anything new to me and I've paid a lot of taxes on income as low as $7000 so this guy must've been cheating at something.
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Greg Siskind is a lawyer. You can trust his word.
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Ok, CIR_DREAM. What's your point?

The guy should have A) at least attempted to file some kind of tax return form, or B) find a different way to transport the money [i.e. money order of some kind, etc.].

As for the US not giving him his money back, well, that's kind of shitty all in of itself. I say tax the guy and then let him move on with his life.

I really don't see the big deal and why you were so shocked. Sorry, I generally don't feel bad for people when they do something so obviously wrong. I understand that the guy went through a lot of crap to save that money but, especially with that big sum, he shouldn't have thought that he was going to get away scot-free without encountering some problems. I mean, for Heaven's sake, it was almost $60,000! Don't tell me the US was wrong to take that money [even though I do think it should be given back now that they know he's not a terrorist] in the first place. If that guy really valued his money, he would've found a proper way to have it sent to his mother.
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Ok, CIR_DREAM. What's your point?

The guy should have A) at least attempted to file some kind of tax return form, or B) find a different way to transport the money [i.e. money order of some kind, etc.].

As for the US not giving him his money back, well, that's kind of shitty all in of itself. I say tax the guy and then let him move on with his life.

I really don't see the big deal and why you were so shocked. Sorry, I generally don't feel bad for people when they do something so obviously wrong. I understand that the guy went through a lot of crap to save that money but, especially with that big sum, he shouldn't have thought that he was going to get away scot-free without encountering some problems. I mean, for Heaven's sake, it was almost $60,000! Don't tell me the US was wrong to take that money [even though I do think it should be given back now that they know he's not a terrorist] in the first place. If that guy really valued his money, he would've found a proper way to have it sent to his mother.
Exactly, he should get $60,000 minus taxes for his income bracket for eleven years minus non-payment of taxes penalties minus tax evasion fines. I think that's far into the negative territory at that point. $60,000 is probably what I would've saved had I not been paying taxes for 11 years. If he gets his money back I want my money back.
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Greg Siskind is a lawyer. You can trust his word.
I'm sorry but that has to be one of the most naive statements I've ever read.

Johnny Cochran was also a lawyer. If he were still alive, I wouldn't trust him at all.

Lawyers are not always trustworthy people. They can manipulate the truth just like the rest of us.
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[quote]="HOPEFULDREAMER"]Ok, CIR_DREAM. What's your point?

The guy should have A) at least attempted to file some kind of tax return form, or B) find a different way to transport the money [i.e. money order of some kind, etc.].

As for the US not giving him his money back, well, that's kind of shitty all in of itself. I say tax the guy and then let him move on with his life.

I really don't see the big deal and why you were so shocked. Sorry, I generally don't feel bad for people when they do something so obviously wrong. I understand that the guy went through a lot of crap to save that money but, especially with that big sum, he shouldn't have thought that he was going to get away scot-free without encountering some problems. I mean, for Heaven's sake, it was almost $60,000! Don't tell me the US was wrong to take that money [even though I do think it should be given back now that they know he's not a terrorist] in the first place. If that guy really valued his money, he would've found a proper way to have it sent to his mother.[/quote]

Not every illegal is educated and understand these things like some of us do. Last time i saw him on t.v he didn't even speak english so i understand if he didn't know he could get in trouble for leaving the u.s with that huge sum of money. He washed dishes and worked in restaurants for 11 years i doubt he had anyone knowledgeable advising him. What may be obvious to us may not have been obvious to him.
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I think that's far into the negative territory at that point. $60,000 is probably what I would've saved had I not been paying taxes for 11 years. If he gets his money back I want my money back.
Ditto. It's not fair for some people to not even attempt to pay taxes and still be able to go home with all the money they saved yet the same treatment isn't afforded to others.


My dad took care of a family of 5 on a $15-17,000 yearly income when we first got here. He still filed his tax report. Don't tell me it isn't possible.
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I think that's far into the negative territory at that point. $60,000 is probably what I would've saved had I not been paying taxes for 11 years. If he gets his money back I want my money back.
Ditto. It's not fair for some people to not even attempt to pay taxes and still be able to go home with all the money they saved yet the same treatment isn't afforded to others.


My dad took care of a family of 5 on a $15-17,000 yearly income when we first got here. He still filed his tax report. Don't tell me it isn't possible.
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