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Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan
Trump trouncing hillary isnt an anomaly, anyone wouldve trounced her. Who do the dems even have for 2020? Black hillary kamala harris? Bernie?
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Originally Posted by Red neck
To me our best bet might be joe biden or beto
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Originally Posted by 2MoreYears
Something even better could be congress invoking the 25th.
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All this talk of 25A use is pointless as it requires Pence to be the one to cross Trump first.
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Originally Posted by Demise
VP has to be the one to invoke the 25th with support of majority of the cabinet. Then when VP and President are in dispute over his ability to act as President that's when the vote goes to the congress.
All this talk of 25A use is pointless as it requires Pence to be the one to cross Trump first. |
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Originally Posted by vft1008
Almost all metrics and models had Hillary winning, but they fucked that up and Trump didn't even win the popular vote. Look where we are now.
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Originally Posted by jwxie518
because sander took the votes away.
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Originally Posted by tays123
All models had HILLARY WINNING THE MAJORITY OF THE VOTES. And that became true! She did receive 3 million more votes than he did.
What Trump did in 2016 was to suppress the Democratic vote and the Democrats helped him! Take Michigan for example. Trump was the ONLY candidate that went to Flint. Obama made a trip to Flint the May of that year, where he pulled a stunt by drinking (not really drinking) the tap water. And people were furious with him. A lot of people were angry and voted for Republicans and more people did not even vote for a president.(Of course I am talking about the Democrats) Then take Wisconsin for example. Hillary NEVER visited Wisconsin although she lost Wisconsin to Bernie and Obama in the 2016 and 2008 Democratic primaries, respectively! So NO. I do not think Trump will be able to get THAT lucky again. If Democrats pick up Michigan, Wisconsin AND Pennsylvania on top of what Hillary won in 2016, then they are at 270. I think people are going to be TIRED of the constant drama with Trump... But then who knows! |
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This mid-term, Michigan sway blue hard this time. It will be an uphill battle for Trump in 2020.
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Ohio re-elected a democratic senator.
Pennsylvania re-elected a democratic senator and governor.
Minnesota re-elected 2 democratic senators and elected a democratic governor.
Nevada elected a democratic senator and governor.
Arizona elected a democratic senator.
Iowa elected a 3D-1R house delegation (+2D gain).
Colorado re-elected a democratic senator.
Florida restored voting rights to former felons (itself it narrowly elected republican senator and governor).
Georgia nearly elected a democratic governor despite all the voter suppression going on.
Texas senate race came way too close for comfort for republicans.
It's hard to exactly gauge North Carolina because it had no state-wide races in 2018 and their house is gerrymandered up the ass that election net 0 change (aside NC-09 which is disputed).
Trump doesn't exactly have much support he can afford to lose after squeaking in a win in 2016 and if the trend holds he is going to get pretty BTFO.
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