Mcdonald's university- I'm hatin' it! - Page 4

If a judge would ask me that, I'd tell him: "It was a real marriage, my family and hers both arrived to the wedding and we are living together, the bills are on both our names, and I have a life insurance policy and she's the beneficiary. What do you want from me? We live together, she's my wife, the marriage is real". It wouldn't even go to an immigration court, just a short interview and that's all.

The only way it could not work is if you don't live together. Because if you live with your wife - the marriage is real, and of courses you'd know to answer basic questions like "When your wife comes home from work?", "What color her toothbrush is?" and stuff like that.

The immigration officers try to prove that you don't live with her and deport you, but if you prove that you live together - they will be satisfied and leave you alone because that's what they want to find out.


However, there are many people that don't live with their American wives and still get a green card without any problem.


Talking about breaking the law, as long as you are ILLEGAL in the US you are breaking the law. If you want to stop breaking the law you should get legalized.

You missed my entire point. lol! Just read the rules. Anyway good look with whatever you do.

just because money does not exchange hands does not make it legal. The law does not necessarily take into consideration whether or not money exchanged hands when they are trying people for commiting fraud, and getting into a sham marriage.

Sure, I could probably find a good friend of the family to marry that is a USC, and chances are they will not do it for monetary gains, but because the marriage is not based on the love of two individuals it would be a sham marriage and if determined to be a sham marriage would get one in as much trouble as if they paid someone to marry them for the documents. In the end it is done to get certain benefits that would not appear otherwise.

I think that you are just confused and believe that marriage that does not exchange money is ultimately legal because you are citing certain hollywood cases, but you have to ask yourself if the law would consider your union legal in their definition.

I do think that marriage is a legitimate path to attaining legal status, but only if it is done out of love and not out of the fringe benefits of marriage. marrying due to the fringe benefits is not only unethical but generally illegal, specially when the fringe benefits includes some government laws, such as income tax benefits, healthcare or adjustment of status. Because in hollywood they married some rich person and then divorce to get their money or to get media attention is just unethical behavior but does not involve the government. if an NBA star that happens to be gay marries to hide that fact it still does not involve the US government, but if he applie for benefits of that marriage that he would otherwise not be entitled to then you bet he will be getting a good lawyer to fight the case.

just because you live with the person you married does not make the marriage real either. I could probably find a family friend that would marry me not out of monetary gain but out of helping us out, and then I could probably rent a room with that person, but it will still be a sham marriage, and I will not have that.

True, as long as we are here illegally we are breaking the laws, but those laws can be changed, and that is the purpose of this site, it is a means of support and a method of showing other people that are curious the community of individuals that are fighting to have those laws changed. To show them that we are not all criminals and that we do have ways to contribute to this country.

I will try to refrain from responding to further posts by you, but if you do not want to get banned from this site, because you are endangering our cause by suggesting behavior that is criminal (whether or not you believe it is illegal or not), then I suggest you just let this topic go.

Banned? 152 people sent me private messages and I explained everyone of them how to get a credit score, a driver's license, an ITIN and a saving account with an interest and many other things. I helped many. 50% of the legal immigrants in the US got their visa from marriage, so marriage is popular and yes - if you entered the US legally and overstay, marrying your girlfriend/boyfriend is a good thinking.

You could get married for real and see if it works. Not to a family friend.. I could marry my current girlfriend, of course I'd prefer us to keep dating each other for awhile longer to see how it's like - But I could marry her anyway and see how it's turning on to be when we are married. Instead of living together UNMARRIED we'll live together MARRIED. I'll get a green card and we will see if our marriage is working out, if not - We will divorce like all the normal people.

If money didn't exchange hands then the marriage is probably real. But if money DID exchange hand - It's totally illegal. But, I understand people who pays to marry a US citizen and believe me, many people are doing it.


If a gay basketball player player marries a woman for his image, a sham marriage, and they also file joint tax return together, isn't it also illegal? Tax fraud?

What about a couple I know that lived together for 8 years and they got married only because the guy got sick and needed his girlfriend had a great insurance? Fraud? They are still living together. If god forbid, you were living with someone, as a couple for 10 years and this someone got really sick and needed health care and you had a great insurance - would you married to this someone? Or let this someone die because you'd think that it's unethical?

The important thing is that very soon I'll have a green card. As long as our status is still "Illegal immigrant" we are breaking the law, we don't pay taxes so we break another law, those who use fake SSNs to get a job - they break the law.


I tried to let this topic go since I've made my point already but people keep bringing it up.

and this is all that we needed, a sense of clarification to the kind of marriage that you support. With the other stuff that you said it seemed that you supported sham marriage as a means of getting legal status but really did not understand the qualifications of what a sham marriage really was. you were stating something along the lines of living together making a marriage legit, or at least that is how it sounded to me and maybe some other people.

yes the basketball player filing taxes under that marriage is commiting a federal crime, tax fraud. and the couple that have lived for 8 years getting married for that healthcare is not really considered a sham marriage, after a certain number of years of being together the state will actually consider individuals that have lived together as being a couple whether they married or not, its a pretty odd law, but it exists, i think its something like 15-25 years maybe more. in any case they have a large amount of proof that they have dated for a while, and that their marriage is potentially real, it would not be very easy at all to disprove, unless they stated otherwise.

btw, I do not think it matters how many people you have helped in the past, if a moderator determines that you are breaking the laws on this site he could still ban you.

bn1... if you write one more post that merely suggests someone getting married, whether there's money involved or not, for the sole purpose of getting a green card, you will be banned. The immigration courts can figure out a fraud marriage. You don't get married to someone just to "try it out" and get a "divorce like all the normal people" especially if you're doing it just to get a green card. An immigration judge can find that suspicious and further investigate your marriage. No matter what you think a "real" marriage is, what you have posted time and time again is against forum rules.

I'm closing this thread because it obviously went way off topic.