An Alternative to Mexican Undocumented Students - Page 4

High school transcrips are not a problem since there may be more people with your name. And they do not search in school databases for criminals. You can also have an ITIN number for taxes purposes, and they dont search the databases.

Only specialized agencies such as the FBI, DEA, CIA or the like can have a judge's permission to search for private information of that kind. Immigration might do so, if there is an open case against you, and a prosecutor is trying to find proof of your identity.

Immigration would search for crimes somebody under your name might have done in state and federal felony databases. If you were put in jail for some time and had your 10 fingersprints recorded, then you'll have a problem. For your case in which only one fingerprint was recorded, I'm not sure. I got tickets while I was in the US, but never they got my fingerprint. Ask an attorney for that specific question. Maybe you'll not be penalized with a 10-year ban.

A friend of mine was undocumented, she declared she had been illegal in the country when she was interviewed by immigration in Juarez, Mexico. But she left the country voluntarily, was not deported. She was trying to adjust her status since she married an American citizen. She said she was sorry for entering the country illegally and that she had never been in jail, and was never deported. She got her green card.
So, there are many ways to go around immigration.

I heard other successful case of people not getting the 10 years ban too.

I'm sure in the application, they will ask your schooling background. You are suppose to name all the schools that you attended. You said that you got your GED from a American high school and attended American college. If you put those school names in the application, they are going to know that you stayed in United States before. How do you manage to go around this?

georgia the difference between you and most ppl here is that we are americans and youre not, we havent lived here for 6 years like you, 6 years =visiting, not been an american. thanks for your input but its pretty flawed

MIdreamer, you should not put in your application that you attended an American college or that you got the GED because they'll ask you under what status you did that. In my case I reported I graduated from high school in 2003 from a Mexican high school. I am not lying, I am just telling what they have to know for the purpose of getting a legal visa. Of course in any future visa application I wont name those schools. Maybe when I apply for graduate school, I can use those transcripts to have a better chance of being accepted. The goal is to become legal. All other minor details should be managed in a case by case basis.

melpw, I can tell you I met many Mexicans and other Latin Americans that had been in the US for less than 6 years and felt they were American citizens, even if they had not legal status.
They believed in the American system of values, spoke very little Spanish only with their parents, and did not want to be called by the name of their country. When they were asked about their origin, they usually named the county they lived in, city or state. But they never named their original country, unless they were asked directly.
They had learned very good English, had adapted very soon into American mainstream society, and followed the American culture.

This is very good for immigrants that want to succeed in a new country. I am sure had these students legal status, they could be role models in society. The problem here is that they were not legal, and could do very little with their skills.

In the 6 years I lived in the US, I was adapting very easily into American society. I learned English quickly, worked very hard to save money to pay for my education, and obtained good grades in college. I was becoming an American citizen in my mind because I was practicing the traditional values of hard work and getting an education.

You would agree that these kinds of values are mere American, right? The problem was that no matter how much Americanized I was becoming, I was still not legal. And legality in the US comes first when searching for a job or applying for financial aid. You know that. And no matter how much I loved the country for its order, progress, and opportunities, things were not going to change.

I understood from many Republican and Democrat politicians that being American or Mexican is about the degree of civility you had. This means being legal, paying your taxes, having a decent job, vote for your representatives, and participate actively in the betterment of your society without any fears or prosecution behind you.

So, I took those good values with me, thought about the way of getting what I was missing, and returned to a country in which I could work towards that goal. That simple.

In the case of many people that have lived most of their lives in the US, they can adapt and progress in Mexico in the same way their parents and them adapted into American society. Mexico is not another planet, it is a country where they can do what they have been denied to do because of their illegality. They have learned the values of hard work and discipline. They may save money in the US and start out in Mexico.

Remember, we as humans have the capacity to overcome obstacles and adapt to new circumstances. We have to solve the problem of illegality and coming to Mexico is an option to solve it. It is not the option most people would want, but it is real and possible. My message is not flawed, it shows an option and a way out for many undocumented Mexican students. Even if they dont feel their 'Mexicanity' anymore, they have it in a legal paper. Just use it!

@georgia1
I think what melpw means by his statement is that many of use have been here over 90% of our lives, personally I've been here since i was 1 1/2 y.o. we grow up "American" we never become Americanized like some that may come at and older age, because we were raised American, if we were to leave to Mexico we would have to become "Mexicanized"? because we aren't acustomed to the Mexican culture as much as somebody who came to the States at the age of 10-15

on the other hand your topic of going back to Mexico makes a lot of sense to me, I plan on becoming a doctor and im pretty sure it would be a lot easier to obtain with govt support in mexico than here, hows the violence in mexico around college areas?

how'd you get around the whole work history bit? I mean if you are working as a professional something, don't they want to see your college degree?

If the students come to Mexico they dont have to become Mexicanized,,, they can still be Americans in their mind and way of behaving, but they can use the Mexican soil and laws as a springboard to the US back again. Or they can grow professionally and live a successful life in Mexico.

The violence is mostly between drug cartels fighting for a share of the American illegal drug market, they mind their businesses and colleges are not attacked, unless a college student is related in some way to the cartels. It is a very good idea to become a doctor in Mexico. In fact, many Mexican doctors perform very hard surgeries in private hospitals in Houston and other cities. They are called by their partners in the US for the job, and then they return back to Mexico. I recommend you to save enough money to pay for your medical education. Medicine is the most expensive of all degrees, and being prepared financially will help you a lot in your performance. Of course the price is much cheaper than the US, especially in public schools. Plan ahead, always.

Yes, but it will make a lot of difference if you already have a master's degree or PhD,, and want to work in the US,,,than if you try to become legal from being illegal in the US...and remember that lawyers can also assist you in your application...