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08-04-2012, 02:26 PM
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I'm kind of freaking out about this too. In 2008, my friends came to NYC and we were planing on taking the subway. I doubled up (paying for one fare while two people go through the turn-slide) my friend to avoid paying another $2.50 (since her metrocard malfunctioned). So right when we got through the turnslide, the cops caught us on camera and hit us with a $60 fine each. Of course, I figured it was a small summon because the cops just told me to pay the fine and it'd only turn into a huge case if i didn't pay. He gave us our tickets and we were done in like 10 minutes so I assumed that it was just a small ticket considering it was only worth $2.50 fare.

So recently, my friend mentioned to me how avoiding that MTA fare many years ago could potentially hurt my chances at the deferred action and originally I just kind of ignored it because I thought it was such a minor offense. However, I was still paranoid so I decided to look into it more. I posted a question on avvo (website of lawyers & docs) and asked them the severity of it and a lawyer responded saying that avoiding an MTA fare is considered a Theft of Services, PL 165.15 which is a class A misdemeanor. So i'm really really worried about my chances of getting approved now. That was my first and only crime I've ever committed. What do you guys think of my chances for deferred action? Is it worth it to still apply?
Really think about it, weigh your options and get a second opinion from an Immigration lawyer if you can afford it (consultations are usually free). I'm in a difficult situation myself that I didn't have a choice in but I'm not getting any younger and have decided to roll the dice and will still apply. Hopefully everything works out if not at least I can go back to my country of origin and finally start a life there.
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I'm kind of freaking out about this too. In 2008, my friends came to NYC and we were planing on taking the subway. I doubled up (paying for one fare while two people go through the turn-slide) my friend to avoid paying another $2.50 (since her metrocard malfunctioned). So right when we got through the turnslide, the cops caught us on camera and hit us with a $60 fine each. Of course, I figured it was a small summon because the cops just told me to pay the fine and it'd only turn into a huge case if i didn't pay. He gave us our tickets and we were done in like 10 minutes so I assumed that it was just a small ticket considering it was only worth $2.50 fare.

So recently, my friend mentioned to me how avoiding that MTA fare many years ago could potentially hurt my chances at the deferred action and originally I just kind of ignored it because I thought it was such a minor offense. However, I was still paranoid so I decided to look into it more. I posted a question on avvo (website of lawyers & docs) and asked them the severity of it and a lawyer responded saying that avoiding an MTA fare is considered a Theft of Services, PL 165.15 which is a class A misdemeanor. So i'm really really worried about my chances of getting approved now. That was my first and only crime I've ever committed. What do you guys think of my chances for deferred action? Is it worth it to still apply?
Theft is not a disqualifying misdemeanor. Do a background check to make sure. Talk to a lawyer if you're paranoid.
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08-07-2012, 01:09 AM
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unless you have been charged
or convicted of it you should be ok.

I think you meant only Convicted.


You are presumed innocent until proven guilty, a charge is only an accusation until you are found Guilty then you are convicted. If the case is dismissed or you are found NOT guilty you are aquitted of the charge and as long as you provide supporting documentation you should be in the clear
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I'm kind of freaking out about this too. In 2008, my friends came to NYC and we were planing on taking the subway. I doubled up (paying for one fare while two people go through the turn-slide) my friend to avoid paying another $2.50 (since her metrocard malfunctioned). So right when we got through the turnslide, the cops caught us on camera and hit us with a $60 fine each. Of course, I figured it was a small summon because the cops just told me to pay the fine and it'd only turn into a huge case if i didn't pay. He gave us our tickets and we were done in like 10 minutes so I assumed that it was just a small ticket considering it was only worth $2.50 fare.

So recently, my friend mentioned to me how avoiding that MTA fare many years ago could potentially hurt my chances at the deferred action and originally I just kind of ignored it because I thought it was such a minor offense. However, I was still paranoid so I decided to look into it more. I posted a question on avvo (website of lawyers & docs) and asked them the severity of it and a lawyer responded saying that avoiding an MTA fare is considered a Theft of Services, PL 165.15 which is a class A misdemeanor. So i'm really really worried about my chances of getting approved now. That was my first and only crime I've ever committed. What do you guys think of my chances for deferred action? Is it worth it to still apply?
Dude, relax!!!


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If I have a conviction for a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, or multiple misdemeanors, can I receive an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under this new process?
No. If you have been convicted of a felony offense, a significant misdemeanor offense, or three or more other misdemeanor offenses not occurring on the same date and not arising out of the same act, omission, or scheme of misconduct, you will not be considered for deferred action under the new process except where DHS determines there are exceptional circumstances.

What offenses qualify as a felony?
A felony is a federal, state, or local criminal offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year.


What offenses constitute a significant misdemeanor?
For the purposes of this process, a significant misdemeanor is a misdemeanor as defined by federal law[COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"] (specifically, one for which the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is one year or less but greater than five days)[/color] and that meets the following criteria:

[COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]Regardless of the sentence imposed, is an offense of domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or, driving under the influence; or,[/color]

If not an offense listed above, is one for which the individual was[COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"] sentenced to time in custody of more than 90 days.[/color] The sentence [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]must involve[/color] time to be served in custody, and therefore does not include a suspended sentence.
The time in custody does not include any time served beyond the sentence for the criminal offense based on a state or local law enforcement agency honoring a detainer issued by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). Notwithstanding the above, the decision whether to defer action in a particular case is an individualized,[COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"] discretionary one that is made taking into account the totality of the circumstances.[/color] Therefore, the absence of the criminal history outlined above, or its presence, is not necessarily determinative, but is a factor to be considered in the unreviewable exercise of discretion. DHS retains the discretion to determine that an individual does not warrant deferred action on the basis of a single criminal offense for which the individual was sentenced to time in custody of 90 days or less.

What offenses constitute a non-significant misdemeanor?
For purposes of this process, a non-significant misdemeanor is any misdemeanor as defined by federal law (specifically, one for which the maximum term of imprisonment authorized is one year or less but greater than five days) and that meets the following criteria:

[COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]Is not an offense of domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or, driving under the influence; and
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Is one for which the individual [COLOR="rgb(160, 82, 45)"]was sentenced to time in custody of 90 days or less. [/color]
The time in custody does not include any time served beyond the sentence for the criminal offense based on a state or local law enforcement agency honoring a detainer issued by ICE. Notwithstanding the above, the decision whether to defer action in a particular case is an individualized, discretionary one that is made taking into account the totality of the circumstances. Therefore, the absence of the criminal history outlined above, or its presence, is not necessarily determinative, but is a factor to be considered in the unreviewable exercise of discretion.

If I have a minor traffic offense, such as driving without a license, will it be considered a non-significant misdemeanor that counts towards the “three or more non-significant misdemeanors” making me unable to receive consideration for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under this new process?
A minor traffic offense will not be considered a misdemeanor for purposes of this process. However, your entire offense history can be considered along with other facts to determine whether, under the totality of the circumstances, you warrant an exercise of prosecutorial discretion.

It is important to emphasize that driving under the influence is a significant misdemeanor regardless of the sentence imposed.

Will offenses criminalized as felonies or misdemeanors by state immigration laws be considered felonies or misdemeanors for purpose of this process?
No. Immigration-related offenses characterized as felonies or misdemeanors by state immigration laws will not be treated as disqualifying felonies or misdemeanors for the purpose of considering a request for consideration of deferred action pursuant to this process.

Will DHS consider my expunged or juvenile conviction as an offense making me unable to receive an exercise of prosecutorial discretion?
Expunged convictions and juvenile convictions will not automatically disqualify you. Your request will be assessed on a case-by-case basis to determine whether, under the particular circumstances, a favorable exercise of prosecutorial discretion is warranted. If you were a juvenile, but tried and convicted as an adult, you will be treated as an adult for purposes of the deferred action for childhood arrivals process.
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08-07-2012, 07:47 AM
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Hi all, this all great news, but my brother got a DUI back in the day, about 7yrs ago, I don't know how this will impact eligibility for deferred action, what do you guys think ?

What offenses qualify as a felony?
A felony is a federal, state, or local criminal offense punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding
one year.
What offenses qualify as a “significant misdemeanor”?
A significant misdemeanor is a federal, state, or local criminal offense punishable by no more than one
year of imprisonment or even no imprisonment that involves: violence, threats, or assault, including
domestic violence; sexual abuse or exploitation; burglary, larceny, or fraud; driving under the influence of
alcohol or drugs; obstruction of justice or bribery; unlawful flight from arrest, prosecution, or the scene of
an accident; unlawful possession or use of a firearm; drug distribution or trafficking; or unlawful
possession of drugs.
How many non-significant misdemeanors constitute “multiple misdemeanors” making an
individual ineligible for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under this new process?
An individual who is not convicted of a significant misdemeanor but is convicted of three or more other
misdemeanors not occurring on the same day and not arising out of the same act, omission, or scheme of
misconduct is not eligible to be considered for deferred action under this new process.
What qualifies as a national security or public safety threat?
If the background check or other information uncovered during the review of an individual’s request for
deferred action indicates that the individual’s presence in the United States threatens public safety or
national security, he or she will be ineligible for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion. Indicia that an
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individual poses such a threat include, but are not limited to, gang membership, participation in criminal
activities, or participation in activities that threaten the United States.
How will ICE and USCIS handle cases involving individuals who do not satisfy the eligibility
criteria under this new process but may be eligible for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under
the June 2011 Prosecutorial Discretion Memoranda?
If an individual has a final order of removal and USCIS determines that he or she does not satisfy the
eligibility criteria, then it will reject the individual’s request for deferred action. That individual may then
request an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under the ICE June 2011 Prosecutorial Discretion
Memoranda through any of the established channels at ICE, including through a request to the ICE Office
of the Public Advocate or to the local Field Office Director. USCIS will not consider requests for review
under the ICE June 2011 Prosecutorial Discretion Memoranda.
If an individual is currently in removal proceedings and ICE determines that he or she does not satisfy the
eligibility criteria for deferred action under this process, it will then consider whether the individual is
otherwise eligible for an exercise of prosecutorial discretion under its current practices for assessing
eligibility under the June 2011 Prosecutorial Discretion Memoranda.
Will there be supervisory review of decisions by ICE and USCIS under this

http://www.ice.gov/doclib/about/offi...on-process.pdf
When I was 17, I went to court driving no license. I paid the fine and I couldn't drive for 6 months. I was driving yesterday. I went to the beach with my friends using my uncle's car. I was at a red light and I let go of my brake and my car tapped the car in front of me, but not hard, no property damage and the lady was fine. The lady pulled over to the side of the road but I got scared and panicked that I don't have my license, so I left the scene. She called the cops, and they caught me the next town. I have no idea why I left I just got so scared. Now I have to go to court 2 times, in 2 different courts.
The first time includes: no license, leaving scene, failing to report, falling too close.
second time: unlicensed driver. Will this count as a misdemeanor? Since I have to go to court twice, is it 2 different actions or counts as one because it resulted in one day? it just happened in 2 different towns.
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08-07-2012, 10:09 AM
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When I was 17, I went to court driving no license. I paid the fine and I couldn't drive for 6 months. I was driving yesterday. I went to the beach with my friends using my uncle's car. I was at a red light and I let go of my brake and my car tapped the car in front of me, but not hard, no property damage and the lady was fine. The lady pulled over to the side of the road but I got scared and panicked that I don't have my license, so I left the scene. She called the cops, and they caught me the next town. I have no idea why I left I just got so scared. Now I have to go to court 2 times, in 2 different courts.
The first time includes: no license, leaving scene, failing to report, falling too close.
second time: unlicensed driver. Will this count as a misdemeanor? Since I have to go to court twice, is it 2 different actions or counts as one because it resulted in one day? it just happened in 2 different towns.
Wow I would really consult a lawyer. This is a hit and run.

My friend accidentally hit someone but they made a secret deal and moved on their way so that cops didn't have to get in on it.
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When I was 17, I went to court driving no license. I paid the fine and I couldn't drive for 6 months. I was driving yesterday. I went to the beach with my friends using my uncle's car. I was at a red light and I let go of my brake and my car tapped the car in front of me, but not hard, no property damage and the lady was fine. The lady pulled over to the side of the road but I got scared and panicked that I don't have my license, so I left the scene. She called the cops, and they caught me the next town. I have no idea why I left I just got so scared. Now I have to go to court 2 times, in 2 different courts.
The first time includes: no license, leaving scene, failing to report, falling too close.
second time: unlicensed driver. Will this count as a misdemeanor? Since I have to go to court twice, is it 2 different actions or counts as one because it resulted in one day? it just happened in 2 different towns.
Especially with a pending case like this, you need a lawyer ASAP. A good lawyer can review your case, and quite often get the charges dropped or reduced.
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I also need help. I went to court for "Theft under $100". I just had to do 48 hours of community service. Just a week ago they sent me my "General Waiver and Release" and "Petition for Expungement of Records" Form. But I am not sure what I should do.
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Shoplifted when I was 13, handcuffed was sent to some police station, they never took any pictures or fingerprints of me, just detained me there till my parents came with my documents or whatever. A month later I had to attend some local hearing (no court or anything). They just made me join some club in highschool, to participate in some after school activities. End of the school year they dismissed my case.

In the application do I have to say that I shoplifted, or do I just leave it blank, or are there other solutions.

Nothing legal wise has happened to me since, but that was also the day I found out I was an illigal alien.

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