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[BAD SOURCE] From Sen. Durbin's Office: Summary of Changes in New Dream Act - Page 5

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#41
12-02-2010, 04:03 PM
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I made a mistake, but, that means that Dream Activist was wrong, In Thomas Library S.3999 is something completely unrelated to dream, or whatever the fuck we want to call this new bill. I guess it's S.3992 they will be voting on.
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I don't even know if I qualify for Dream Act anymore lol

What does this mean ?
11. Places the burden of proof on a DREAM Act applicant. An individual would be required to
demonstrate eligibility for the DREAM Act by a preponderance of the evidence.
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What exactly does "final order of deportation" mean?

I have a cousin who came when he was a baby but recently he had to go back to mexico for an emergency but when he came back he was ill advised and went through the port of entry without anything thinking he could talk his way through (I scolded him for it, believe me)

But he got caught and even though they felt bad for him cause he told them his story he sent back to tijuana and I think they gave him a 3 year bar from entering the country, but he did make it back using I think someone's passport that looks like him. He's never jumped the border though, everytime, including when he was a baby they brought him through the port of entry.
I was gonna see him soon and I wanted to find out for him. thanks
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*sigh* Im worried
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I don't even know if I qualify for Dream Act anymore lol

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11. Places the burden of proof on a DREAM Act applicant. An individual would be required to
demonstrate eligibility for the DREAM Act by a preponderance of the evidence.
That you have to credibly prove that you are eligible.
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What exactly does "final order of deportation" mean?

I have a cousin who came when he was a baby but recently he had to go back to mexico for an emergency but when he came back he was ill advised and went through the port of entry without anything thinking he could talk his way through (I scolded him for it, believe me)

But he got caught and even though they felt bad for him cause he told them his story he sent back to tijuana and I think they gave him a 3 year bar from entering the country, but he did make it back using I think someone's passport that looks like him. He's never jumped the border though, everytime, including when he was a baby they brought him through the port of entry.
I was gonna see him soon and I wanted to find out for him. thanks
He still wouldn't have qualified, since he left the country.
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Is this doc really for Durbins office?
According to Micheal E. Hill's twitter, this document was released by Senator Durbin's office.

http://twitter.com/MicEvHill

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I don't even know if I qualify for Dream Act anymore lol

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11. Places the burden of proof on a DREAM Act applicant. An individual would be required to
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I think this means that you yourself needs to produce documents that show your eligibility. I would imagine this to be something like VISA records, passport, selective service card, school transcripts, etc.
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I don't even know if I qualify for Dream Act anymore lol

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11. Places the burden of proof on a DREAM Act applicant. An individual would be required to
demonstrate eligibility for the DREAM Act by a preponderance of the evidence.
It means exactly what it says. The "burden" or in other words "mission" would be for DREAMers to find solid concrete proof of when you arrived and how long you have been here. This is why everyone needs to find everything they can from when they were in the U.S. as a kid to now. This can be old photographs from recognizable landmarks, elementary/junior high/high school graduation diplomas, IDs, transcripts, etc. Immunization cards, health card IDs, everything that is SOLID proof.
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12-02-2010, 04:11 PM
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He still wouldn't have qualified, since he left the country.
Despite having been here since virtually before he could even speak? I thought it was that you had to be here for x consecutive years, i mean, all the school career and everything that truly matters is in order... *sigh* oh well
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preponderance of the evidence n. the greater weight of the evidence required in a civil (non-criminal) lawsuit for the trier of fact (jury or judge without a jury) to decide in favor of one side or the other. This preponderance is based on the more convincing evidence and its probable truth or accuracy, and not on the amount of evidence. Thus, one clearly knowledgeable witness may provide a preponderance of evidence over a dozen witnesses with hazy testimony, or a signed agreement with definite terms may outweigh opinions or speculation about what the parties intended. Preponderance of the evidence is required in a civil case and is contrasted with "beyond a reasonable doubt," which is the more severe test of evidence required to convict in a criminal trial. No matter what the definition stated in various legal opinions, the meaning is somewhat subjective.
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