White House immigration bill aims to get process moving - Page 5

yeah I am not liking that mentality of these people, "GC IN 8 YEARS?!?! WHAHHHA?! MAKE IT IMMEDIATE OR I WONT TAKE SUCH BILL!! I FEEL LIKE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN ALREADY!"

That's what I'm thinking. :/

So true.

I don't understand why some people feel like it would be so simple and realistic for any of us to receive PR/USC status so quickly.

We really do have to use common sense and not live in some fantasy world. I'm glad that the proposal includes a pathway to citizenship since it would benefit so many of us. If people need to learn English and basic civics then by all means. It really is a reasonable amount of time at least it's 2 years less I've heard it could take 10 years with the gang of 8 proposal.

And if we look at it this way those 8 years give folks enough time to learn english (they don't have to be 100% I'm sure they will be lenient), learn some civics, and if they have to pay taxes/do past returns.

Oh and I really hope that there won't be any unfair deportations. They need to include something about that as well.

Bills themselves are already super hard to pass yet let alone one that would give 11 million who are here with out authorization/permission authorization/permission to be here. But already lots of people are getting picky about this. And I will say this example again, you don't break, overstay your welcome in someone home and then get upset when you hear the owners are considering allowing you stay and maybe be part of the family in 8 years.

"Well EVEN DHS and Obama say that is NOT my FAULT because I was brought here at such young age!!"


There is something known as self responsibility and once you turned 18, you had the option to go back home and apply here legally

Yes, please repeat anti-immigrant talking points.

Apply here legally? Because that's so easy when your relatives in your "home" country don't have shit to their bank accounts.

You have to be able to prove that you have enough money in order to be considered for a student visa. You think that's an option for most of us whose "home" countries and extended families are poor as hell?

I agreed with you up until that point.

I'm not going to say I agree with the last statement but I understand that it really was an option we could've taken. However, we are all still here growing older and well not going anywhere. Oh and it takes two to tango so it's not like anyone here is the victim and that includes the US immigration system and US employers.

I really wish people understood that no one is going to hand us a green card or citizenship in less than a year, or such a short period of time. I understand that and I'm willing to wait a reasonable amount of time as long as I'm still able to support myself/work, finish my education, and do other things such as drive 'legally', build my credit, etc. Oh and most importantly I'm willing to wait as long as there will be a pathway to citizenship because that's what I ultimately want. Let's all hope for the best and pray for those souls that for some reason believe they should receive adjustment of status so quickly.

So basically is because the immigration system is broken is because there should not be self responsibility


got it

The thing is why we are here defending these ideas of bills about how they are not amnesty lots of people are crying out ,"AMNESTY FOR ALL!! which sadly makes the rest of us look bad. That facebook chat is just a sample of how some people think of this and the problem is that USCS see those posts and assume things and then themselves are making dumb comments like "GREAT GREAT Just come here illegally and rewarded with amnesty"

Not necessarily both sides have an equal amount of responsibility.

And the IRCA of 1986 was "suppose" stop companies from hiring illegal aliens and it didn't help at all with that and obviously more illegal aliens (including my parents and me) start to come here looking for jobs because they were given, uscs and republicans see this and again assume,"fool once shame on you fool me twice shame on you" so problem is, yes I agree with you, it takes two to tango and we can't just be continuing being the mistress of these companies/country who want cheap labor but don't want to offer anything else because as it takes two, we are view as the main ones here. NOT the companies

I see what you're saying, but I also think you're just hating a little bit since you aged out. I get that it's not fair, but why let students with potential wait 8 years instead of just getting an immediate GC so they can apply to school? It seems you want everyone to have the same treatment you would get, but reality is not everyone aged out. There is no denying this or sugarcoating it

That's a very simplistic view. What if you don't know anyone back home, or if you don't speak the language? How are you going to get enough money to live and to apply legally.