Truth - Page 5

This is like saying that we should believe what the bible says. It was writen by a man like any other, which most likely was intended to control people. My point is that religion is a story to make us feel better, like that there is something to expect after death. how can anyone really know what to expect when its really over.

"and yes what i am going to present here is a challenge.. and if u want to throw it off go ahead.. but remember then dont justify your claims because u didnt research. "

You just did exactly that.. I assume you never read a translation of the Qur'an or searched its origins, nor did u even read the article... Im not saying you to just believe.. faith without proof is not even logical..

Not everyone is a "johnny sixpack" and I personally would like to know what really is going on, and if my government is stealing from me. Might as well live in a dictatorship. If its a small issue than i would understand, but going to war for the personal interest of one man, or a small group of people, especially when its other people dyinng for it, then i believe that the public deserves to know the truth.

What if the government was responsible for the 9/11 incident? Not saying its true, and pardon me for using such a fragil situation as my example. but what if the government was responsible for killing its on people in order to justify a war? would you want to know or would you be ok with what they feed you?

Nor have i read the bible completely. I dont need it to reasure my faith in God, that comes from within me.

How was the religion thing made up?

Well, God presented the challenge 1400 yrs ago..

"And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'ân) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a Sûrah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allâh, if you are truthful. "

This is a translation of a verse in chapter 2.

Anyways, Im gonna end with this, i dont want this to turn into a repetitive back and forth thing... i just want to say that the truth is out there if you do look for it, making claims is easy, and following ones desires to back it up is not something that is wise..

That is what I do not like about organized religion. They believe that their religion is superior to all others.

For me anything that claims to be the Word of God has to be examined closely. While it may have parts of the Word of God, some parts are human's... and this happens with almost any text. But at any rate, I have no doubt that God exists.

I didn't explain my reasoning for Saddam Hussein being taken out and my reasoning for going into Iran because I didn't [and still don't] want to turn this into a political discussion.

No one is asking for imperialism or conquering; apparently people like to be brainwashed by other sources that makes it out like every time the US tries to go do some damage control around the world, we are the bad guys and we just want to "conquer" other countries. If that's the case, then why don't we just "conquer" Latin America? It's right down south, many countries have oil and gold and copper and all sorts of other goodies. Why would we need to travel thousands of miles east when we have everything we could ever ask for right below us? But, yeah, "NO MORE BLOOD FOR OIL" and all that other feel-good garbage is always going to make the US seem like such a big, bad guy .

I don't want to be brainwashed by either side of the debate, therefore I keep my head out of outlandish conspiracy theories and out of the MSM sources as well. What's going on behind the scenes will always be figured out, get it straight. The Pentagon Papers and the Smoking Gun are examples of information seeping out. People like to use conspiracy theories to make themselves feel better about "knowing" something that apparently other people don't know about. If these sources were correct, don't you think someone would've censored them or just cut them out completely if they didn't want people to know? Yes, they would.

And your whole explanation on why women seem to fall into the "ignorance is bliss" thing: HAHAHA buddy. Don't let your penis get in the way of actual thought. If anything, women are a lot more nosy and in everyone's goddamn business. Men are usually still stuck in the "superhero" mood of their childhood and think that if they know something that has been called "the truth" by some random pothead, they have an edge on everyone and they know EXACTLY what is going on. Nope, sorry. Women tend to think more rationally than most men do when it comes to outlandish theories.

In that case, erasan, history books are also "stories" that make us feel better. As we all know, through the "telephone" game, messages get distorted and are never really what they originally were. I'm not here to over-hype religion; but putting religion down as just "a story" that people make up to feel better about things is complete garbage. These "stories" may not be true, but they make up a huge part of some people's lives and that should be respected.