Bow Down to Barrack Obama - Page 5

Originally Posted by daflyboy04

get him...

Originally Posted by zJustice

Obama still worked for a slumlord, and check out this Youtube video on him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVeFVtcdSYY

Originally Posted by Ianus

I clearly mentioned not having substantive plans for his Presidency as being the reason why I do not support him since it has nothing to do with his past,but it has everything to do with our future.Lets be realistic,getting any immigration bill to pass will hinge on a lot more than just having a willing Pro-immigrant President &/or Congress.

The main problem I believe will still be a sour Electorate.The basic mood that I see & hear everyday is "if the "Average American" doesn't believe he is reaping the benefits of his own country then why should a foreign national ?"

It is for this reason I believe the past immigration bills failed & why some who oppose any form of immigration [including legalization] has been so successful in their message to the "American people".Most polls would suggest that the current Congress & President are not only unpopular BUT most importantly are being neglectful in their duty to doing the people's business.The elections this fall [so far] look to solve only half the problem as most incumbents in Congress look to be elected.

Anyway,even though I cannot vote,on the topic of just supporting a candidate It would have to be John Edwards even though he is out of the race.It is because I believe he would have effectively dealt with the main problem we've been having,which is to deal with the problems of the lower middle class & poor where I believe most of the opposition to the past immigration bills came from & it would also negate any anti-immigrant message.I got the impression no other candidate whether Democrat or Republican seemed as passionate about it as he was & would make it a priority if given the Presidency.However,having reviewed that Obama did some past work in the Chicago community helping the poor I'll take a renewed look at him.

Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007

And lilbawler, its not about "hate" for Obama. He should be subject to scrutiny, and I want the Democratic nominee to be fully vetted whether it be Hillary or Obama. I do not want any surprises after primary season.

Originally Posted by lilbawler2001

It seems you are buying into the anti-immigrant movement's claim that the "american people" don't want any form of legalization. Many polls have indicated that most americans don't mind a comprehensive immigration reform and even if poverty is eradicated from the U.S, there will ALWAYS be that anti- immigrant message. Do you really believe the anti-immigrant crowd will stop flooding congress with phone calls even if there is no poverty in America? Also people like sessions etc will always respond to the anti-immigrant crowd even if pro-immigration calls outnumber them. The only sour electorate we have when it comes to immigration would be the alipac type of crowd.

Btw, i wonder what type of negative impact dream act would have on the poor and middle class?

Originally Posted by CIR_Dream2007

And lilbawler, its not about "hate" for Obama. He should be subject to scrutiny, and I want the Democratic nominee to be fully vetted whether it be Hillary or Obama. I do not want any surprises after primary season.