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Menendez describes two additional tiers to pitching legalization to parliamentarian - Page 5

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I’m very aware of how things work. No need for condescending replies.

My comment still stands, even with Democrats not keeping up with their promises we will always be better off with them in power. Stop with the mental gymnastics yall do with “they’re both bad in their own way” BS.
So can you please explain it, because I’m sure everyone is curious about it. The Democrats inability to act and the courts stacked against us doesn’t necessarily put us in a “we will be better off” situation.

So what’s your suggestion if that happens?
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Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
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Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
You still haven’t answer the question and offered a solution but okay.
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Ah yea you’re right we’re probably better off with Republicans then. I’m currently in Mexico traveling on AP and wouldn’t have gotten that chance with Republicans in power, but hey you’re right. /s
Enjoy your stay in MX!
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Some people just don’t understand the idea of holding people accountable.
Some people don't understand that the Democratic Senator in W VA has a different incentive structure than the vast majority of the Dem caucu and you can talk all you want about accountability, primarying people while screaming about ending the filibuster and it won't do a lick of difference other than misdirecting your anger on people who are trying to help you.

I guess the false hope of having some agency is better than the realist assessment that if a whole lot of things go our way, we are fucked.
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The best part is we are tearing our hair about the parliamentarian and right now reconciliation is in danger of being torpedoed by like 4 different sides.
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Some people don't understand that the Democratic Senator in W VA has a different incentive structure than the vast majority of the Dem caucu and you can talk all you want about accountability, primarying people while screaming about ending the filibuster and it won't do a lick of difference other than misdirecting your anger on people who are trying to help you.

I guess the false hope of having some agency is better than the realist assessment that if a whole lot of things go our way, we are fucked.
I never said anything about the filibuster. Also, I have acknowledged that getting Manchin and Sinema to vote in favor of the budget reconciliation with immigration is a different challenge. What I am saying is that it’s ok to hold Democrats accountable if they are evidently pretending like the parliamentarian is an obstacle here. The parliamentarian isn’t. That’s not helping me. That’s playing us for fools.
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The best part is we are tearing our hair about the parliamentarian and right now reconciliation is in danger of being torpedoed by like 4 different sides.
Wrong…the only people endangering reconciliation with immigration are the Senate Democrats listening to the parliamentarian when they can just ignore the bitch. That’s what our problem is.
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I never said anything about the filibuster. Also, I have acknowledged that getting Manchin and Sinema to vote in favor of the budget reconciliation with immigration is a different challenge. What I am saying is that it’s ok to hold Democrats accountable if they are evidently pretending like the parliamentarian is an obstacle here. The parliamentarian isn’t. That’s not helping me. That’s playing us for fools.
I don't think Manchin and Sinema has a problem with immigration they have a problem with $3.5 Trillion. Manchin wants to bring it down to 1.5 Trillion but not sure what Sinema's number is. If there's no immigration in the Reconciliation bill and it's 3.5T, Manchin won't vote for it (according to him).
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All of you are here arguing when nothing is gonna happen for us. Save your energy for something better. We ain't getting shit.
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