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#51
03-26-2018, 02:59 PM
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You can equally thank the “Clean Dream Act” crowd for that. They’ve played an equal hand in sabtogating it all. Even Lindsay Graham recently said “I am surprised a very influential Group is against a Bipartisan deal.”
There was a deal, Trump sunk it and instead shilled for his bridge act for fuck off we're full act, the one that failed 39-61.

Had he approved of the 25 billion for wall for Dream Act bill it'd pass on some thin margins.

Also don't forget who voted yes and who voted no for each.
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There was a deal, Trump sunk it and instead shilled for his bridge act for fuck off we're full act, the one that failed 39-61.

Had he approved of the 25 billion for wall for Dream Act bill it'd pass on some thin margins.

Also don't forget who voted yes and who voted no for each.
Ok this is black and white. trump is the bad guy and democrats are the good guys. Why the good guys wont use their leverage to save us???? Why they dont force the bad guy? Why the good guys just threw away their plan when they passed the spending bill and it included money for ice?? Explain that to me please.
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the “good guys” did try to force the issue with their leverage, the problem is the bad guys didnt budge bcuz there are more of them right now, they are very evil and powerful and they control the agenda.

“good guys” realized they can live to fight another day so they have to wait and get more good guys on their side.

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Ok this is black and white. trump is the bad guy and democrats are the good guys. Why the good guys wont use their leverage to save us???? Why they dont force the bad guy? Why the good guys just threw away their plan when they passed the spending bill and it included money for ice?? Explain that to me please.
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You can equally thank the “Clean Dream Act” crowd for that. They’ve played an equal hand in sabtogating it all. Even Lindsay Graham recently said “I am surprised a very influential Group is against a Bipartisan deal.”
I am thankful that they didn't pass a shitty bill that wouldn't offer a pathway to citizenship, leave out older dreamers, cut legal immigration significantly, and make life more of a living hell for other undocumented people.

I just don't understand the logic of favoring someone who absolutely hates you with the hopes that due to their hatred they'd fix the system. Who knows how it would have gone with Hillary and a Republican Congress, maybe we'd still be where we are now but at the very least ICE wouldn't be arresting fathers in front of their kid's school.
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the “good guys” did try to force the issue with their leverage, the problem is the bad guys didnt budge bcuz there are more of them right now and control the agenda.

“good guys” realized they can live to fight another day so they have to wait and get more good guys on their side.

Oh snap i forgot how they got a promise to have a fair debate about immigration with the turtle.

And yes they want to get more good guys out of our backs. They realized they did a great job when the idiot of trump said he wasnt going to support collins bill so they can blame trump.
Every single democrats starts an interview with one of the following sentences.

"Cold hearted trump ended daca"
"He has rejected 6 bipartisan bills"
"He created the problem, he needs to solve it"
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You can equally thank the “Clean Dream Act” crowd for that. They’ve played an equal hand in sabtogating it all. Even Lindsay Graham recently said “I am surprised a very influential Group is against a Bipartisan deal.”
I wouldn't say equally a hand on sabotaging. Democrats were willing to give Trump $25 billion wall money for DREAM Act, so I would say the 'Clean DREAM Act' crowd was largely unsuccessful in swaying the Democrats to only allow a clean DREAM Act.
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I wouldn't say equally a hand on sabotaging. Democrats were willing to give Trump $25 billion wall money for DREAM Act, so I would say the 'Clean DREAM Act' crowd was largely unsuccessful in swaying the Democrats to only allow a clean DREAM Act.
Are you sure about that? Didn’t Chucky Schumer take the wall funding off the table at one point? I don’t think these Democrats are as genuine as some people think they are. An activist I know who was in DC for past couple weeks told us that MANY Democrats were fully supportive of BS “DACA Patch.” But I do share your frustration of WH flip flopping lately but I am 100% confident that is the work of Miller and his rats. That’s the tragedy of this Presidency.

Regarding the Clean DA crowd I continue to be extremely frustrated because now I see one of them advertising on fb saying “Help us raise $2 million to help with DACA renewals. Our families are being deported!” That’s it. That’s my last fucking rant about those bastard organizations profiting from this. This fucking organization was raising money for “DACA renewals” when renewals were not being accepted! I wish somebody sues the shit out of them.
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It's Monday evening and I already feel abandoned lol.

Man, they're all at fault.
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Are you sure about that? Didn’t Chucky Schumer take the wall funding off the table at one point? I don’t think these Democrats are as genuine as some people think they are. An activist I know who was in DC for past couple weeks told us that MANY Democrats were fully supportive of BS “DACA Patch.” But I do share your frustration of WH flip flopping lately but I am 100% confident that is the work of Miller and his rats. That’s the tragedy of this Presidency.

Regarding the Clean DA crowd I continue to be extremely frustrated because now I see one of them advertising on fb saying “Help us raise $2 million to help with DACA renewals. Our families are being deported!” That’s it. That’s my last fucking rant about those bastard organizations profiting from this. This fucking organization was raising money for “DACA renewals” when renewals were not being accepted! I wish somebody sues the shit out of them.
Yes, I'm sure. Schumer offered the wall more than once, and as recently as a week ago!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ine&yptr=yahoo

I don't see what's wrong with raising money to help DACA renewals. I know a lot of people on this forum applied for aide to help with the renewal fee.
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Yes, I'm sure. Schumer offered the wall more than once, and as recently as a week ago!

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ine&yptr=yahoo

I don't see what's wrong with raising money to help DACA renewals. I know a lot of people on this forum applied for aide to help with the renewal fee.
http://wgntv.com/2018/01/23/schumer-...all-off-table/ <<<--- When sneaky Chuck took Wall Deal OFF the table.

And there is nothing wrong with raising money to help DACA renewals, if you're actually going to use the funds you raise for renewals LOL.

www.dacarenewalfund.com <<<---Here is United We Dream's "DACA renewal Fund" website. Click on it and see where it leads. If you're able to find where Dreamers can apply to get their renewals covered, I will personally award you a medal. I will help you out further to find this. Here is more information about this great fund that UWD apparently has started to "help" Dreamers and to "protect our communities" - https://unitedwedream.org/2017/09/un...daca-renewals/
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