Should you leave?! (Here is your answer perhaps) - Page 7

Originally Posted by deftbeta

I'd take advantage of the in-state tuition in Texas before leaving is an option. Gives something productive to do while waiting for reform and an American degree would surely help if leaving is the route to take. Any question about going to college in Texas can be answered here, http://sites.google.com/a/cheis.net/www/home. If you still have questions PM me.

Originally Posted by deftbeta

Leaving is always an option, but plans must start early. I tend to abstain from encouraging people to leave because I did not do so myself but its something I was planning on doing so; after HS and after college. I did not leave after HS because my state offered in-state was passed (Texas) and did not leave after college because I ended up getting married. Regardless, at both forks in the road the option to go to Mexico was always the best alternative compared to waiting in uncertainty.

As I prepared to graduate HS I was researching universities and had outlined my return to Mexico. I had most of my paperwork ready and was pretty much waiting just to graduate, DREAM Act did not even exist back then (2001). Then four years later in 2005, before meeting my wife my Sr. year of college, I was already scheduling interviews with companies the likes of Halliburton or Schlumberger in Mexico. There are many foreign companies in Mexico that will for sure value an American degree and the language skills. Side note, American companies wanted to interview me way before I graduated but told them I could not interview them until I graduated since I could not come back from Mexico where the interview was to take place : ) .... PEMEX rejected me even though I graduated from the best university in my field, those bureaucratic assholes! Regardless, like its been said, a degree is not something to waste. If you have an engineering/science degree, milk it! Success can take place anywhere, if you've made it this far in the U.S. why will your abilities be inhibited by moving? Also, note there are plenty of graduate schools in Mexico and that there are many American universities with programs based in Mexico i.e. UT-MBA which I looked into in case I went to Mexico. This is applicable to other countries as well, research must be done though. So if moving back is for you plan it and do as much as you can from this side, unlike our parents, the internet allows us to network from distances, research and plan our moves; take advantage of this, do it right.

To add to what's been said, Mexico is not as bad as people think, especially not for someone with bilingual abilities and a degree helps even more. Of course science based and business degrees are a plus but with the many American and foreign companies in Mexico, opportunities do exist.
I am an American citizen now and I've been to Mexico quite often and it seems more relaxed than the US like iamtired mentioned, they don't live to work. I've considered moving back in the near future. I've also worked in Brazil, where I've met engineers from Mexico go work and establish their lives quite comfortably. They've showed me that just because you start work in Mexico does not mean you'll work there forever. Brazil is another place I'd like to move as well.

The U.S. does not want to capitalize on the human capital at its fingertips with DREAMies, don't enable this waste. Yes its scary but after HS we're all adults, if your parents left everything behind for their dream, why don't you have the same courage to start anew? Why dwell on a situation you can do little about; cut your losses. If you want wait then its your decision, I did not want to be here in 2010 with a degree hanging on the wall for five years now with no real meaning.

I always wanted to be American and am one now, but America is not as pretty DREAMies often think it is, I mean we really have no basis of comparison right? Truthfully, I actually felt more freedom in Brazil and Mexico. America wants to waste your intellect and inhibit your potential, why allow them to do this? The US is no longer the powerhouse it used to be and you're no longer the child brought here against your will. We live in a global economy and companies outside the US will value American education, milk it if you can.

For whiteout or any other troll, yes I could have left after HS had it not been for instate but now I work and pay good amount of taxes, I mean good. America has received its return on investment and will continue to reap the benefits for the rest of my professional career, well unless my wife, the American citizen, decides she wants to move outside the country because ironically enough, she hates us paying so much in taxes haha.

Originally Posted by Mona Lisa

So it would be really stupid to return to your country of origin with no degree and money ? What if one can't obtain any of it. Basically, starting from square one in a new place.

Originally Posted by NewGen.011

Well I might be moving to Mexico, Mexico City to be exact. Do you think Mexico would be a moderate place to be or worse? I don't have a degree, I'm going to graduate from high school this year and well, yeah, I'm totally gonna start from zero. OR, should I do go to college here. Luckily I live in Texas and I can pay intuition. One question, do I have to do two years of CC to get a degree or what? The whole "getting a degree" process is confusing. Thanks

Originally Posted by Diplok

My advice is if you can pay for college here, do it. Even if it means having to work low wage jobs while you finish school.

If paying for school here is not an option, then going back may be an option to look into. I am not from Mexico, I am from Venezuela, so going back for me is a bit tougher. Venezuela is turning socialist, and even though the country is rich in oil and gas deposits, most people have very low paying jobs degree or no degree. If I decide to leave I would be leaving someplace else. The only positive for me would be that college is completely free but having to go to college and then work under a semi socialist society wouldn't go well with my capitalist entrepeneurial persona. I'd rather be dead. Luckily for me, I am Jewish by virtue of my mother so I can walk into any israeli consulate and get a Passport but moving to war torn Israel is not much more positive than going to Chavez land. In other words, I am f*ucked.

I decided I'll wait until next year. If by next summer nothing happens I'll be boarding a plane somewhere, I just don't know where yet.

Originally Posted by Diplok

Luckily for me, I am Jewish by virtue of my mother so I can walk into any israeli consulate and get a Passport but moving to war torn Israel is not much more positive than going to Chavez land. In other words, I am f*ucked.
I decided I'll wait until next year. If by next summer nothing happens I'll be boarding a plane somewhere, I just don't know where yet.

Originally Posted by Sindel

I'm thinking about going back to Brazil next summer. I graduated HS last year and I'd love to get a degree, but I live in Florida, and simply can't afford the out-of-state tuition. I mean, yeah sure, I could do 2 years at a CC, but then what. I know I'm young, and still have plenty of time,and maybe I should hang around a little longer, but I just feel useless and it's awful. Besides, there are free colleges in Brazil too, they're a lot harder to get into, but it's possible.

For those of you who can take advantage of in-state-tuition, I say go for it! If you decide to leave later, your American degree will help you a great deal.