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#81
01-29-2017, 04:37 PM
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Okay?



The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with al-Qaeda. 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi Arabia, and the others were from the United Arab Emirates, Egypt and Lebanon.

Trump businesses in the middleeast:
Egypt
Saudi Arabia
UAE

Banned countries of the EO:
Iran
Iraq
Syria
Sudan
Libya
Yemen
Somalia

I think YOU'RE living under a rock.

That is a complete an utter lie. This is the problem we have alot of people like yourself that have surface level knowledge of the situation. THE OBAMA ADMINASTRATION ALREADY HAD POLICIES IN PLACE THAT RESTRICTED COUNTRIES FROM RECEIVING VISAS. Those countries are the 7 that Trump pointed out in his Executive Order. That business dealings is an utter bold face lie perpetuated by the main stream media. It was the Obama administration that passed the Travel Prevention Act in 2015 which identified 7 countries as "countries of concerns" for visa entry. Trump is simply TEMPORARILY halting immigration from those countries until the United States is able to properly vet people. It's as simple as that.

I could go on and on and mention that Trump is not the first president who passed immigration bans. This is why I'm saying it's like some people live under the rock and just read surface level information and never dig deeper.
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01-29-2017, 04:42 PM
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All true.

Point I was making though is Trump is banning countries he doesnt have business interests in, while exempting possibly the largest sources of jihadists because he has a stake in those countries.

This is a whole giant conflict of interest.

Fucking disgrace indeed.

You need to stop passing this LIE as fact. It is not fact. My last reply explained why. How can you claim Trump is having conflict of interest when he is WORKING OFF THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY!?!
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01-29-2017, 04:48 PM
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What part did I lie about? If youre going to ban or "restrict", why not include the other countries THAT HAVE BEEN SOURCES OF JIHADIST? makes no fucking sense unless say.. ITS AFFECTING HIS FUCKING BUSINESSES.

Get the fuck out with calling what I said a lie when all i pointed out are FACTS.
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01-29-2017, 04:55 PM
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What part did I lie about? If youre going to ban or "restrict", why not include the other countries THAT HAVE BEEN SOURCES OF JIHADIST? makes no fucking sense unless say.. ITS AFFECTING HIS FUCKING BUSINESSES.

Get the fuck out with calling what I said a lie when all i pointed out are FACTS.
Because the media is using this narrative to undermine Trump's executive order. Which is false. Him excluding those countries is not because of his business dealings. He has no ties with those businesses abroad anymore because he is sworn into office. As president he's not able to receive money from businesses.

Like I mentioned before, the 7 countries TRUMP MENTIONED IN HIS EXECUTIVE ORDER WERE ALREADY BEING MONITORED BY THE OBAMA ADMINSTRATION AS 'COUNTRIES OF CONCERN'.

Do you read at all dude?
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That is a complete an utter lie. This is the problem we have alot of people like yourself that have surface level knowledge of the situation. THE OBAMA ADMINASTRATION ALREADY HAD POLICIES IN PLACE THAT RESTRICTED COUNTRIES FROM RECEIVING VISAS. Those countries are the 7 that Trump pointed out in his Executive Order. That business dealings is an utter bold face lie perpetuated by the main stream media. It was the Obama administration that passed the Travel Prevention Act in 2015 which identified 7 countries as "countries of concerns" for visa entry. Trump is simply TEMPORARILY halting immigration from those countries until the United States is able to properly vet people. It's as simple as that.

I could go on and on and mention that Trump is not the first president who passed immigration bans. This is why I'm saying it's like some people live under the rock and just read surface level information and never dig deeper.
stop spreading fake news

"Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa."

so the guy didn't want them to enter w/o paperwork and wanted them to get a visa. Way different than what the orange buffoon is pulling.
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stop spreading fake news

"Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa."

so the guy didn't want them to enter w/o paperwork and wanted them to get a visa. Way different than what the orange buffoon is pulling.

And if he provided DACA recipients with permanent residency he still be a buffoon? Geez I can't stand this liberal mentality
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stop spreading fake news

"Obama signed the Visa Waiver Program Improvement and Terrorist Travel Prevention Act as part of an omnibus spending bill. The legislation restricted access to the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens from 38 countries who are visiting the United States for less than 90 days to enter without a visa."

so the guy didn't want them to enter w/o paperwork and wanted them to get a visa. Way different than what the orange buffoon is pulling.
The Travel Act restricted visa waivers for those 7 muslim countries. And Trump is looking to temporarily bar immigration from the same list of countries. The difference is Trump is actually putting things into action what the Obama administration started.
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If you think Trump is not going to be making any money from his businesses "now that he is president" then I'm sorry you're that gullible. You're telling me that if someone's sons are controlling his businesses, he would have no interest or influence on them anymore now that he's president? Gimme a break.

Also if Trump does give DACA kids relief then that wouldn't change my opinion of him at all. At this point we're just bargaining chips for everyone.
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And if he provided DACA recipients with permanent residency he still be a buffoon? Geez I can't stand this liberal mentality
of course

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The Travel Act restricted visa waivers for those 7 muslim countries. And Trump is looking to temporarily bar immigration from the same list of countries. The difference is Trump is actually putting things into action what the Obama administration started.
No, one is asking for reasonable form filling, the other is barring based on religion/origin; including those with approved paperwork.
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If you think Trump is not going to be making any money from his businesses "now that he is president" then I'm sorry you're that gullible. You're telling me that if someone's sons are controlling his businesses, he would have no interest or influence on them anymore now that he's president? Gimme a break.

Also if Trump does give DACA kids relief then that wouldn't change my opinion of him at all. At this point we're just bargaining chips for everyone.
That doesn't make any sense. Trump passing DACA relief is crucial. There's people that bought homes, that are going to school , that have high paying jobs. Trump pretty much controls the livelihood of almost a million DACA recipients. But yet your opinion of him will not change? You're a joke
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