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Predictions for 2025? anybody?

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11-26-2024, 02:44 AM
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Given that i keep an eye on the DACA and immigration issues so much, these are the things that i believe could potentially happen in 2025.

When DACA reaches SCOTUS, it will be rendered as illegal and terminated which will cause a major crisis.

given the support we have of both parties they will propose a permanent solution.

then or at the same time it will force the Trump administration to deal with immigration altogether at once.

their immigration reform would include things such as:

-E Verify nationwide.
-EADs for long time illegals through a fine or paying taxes.
-Greencards or citizenship to DACAs.
-Merit based immigration with extreme vetting.
-Amendment of the birthright citizenship clause.(one parent USC or something along those lines)
-Enforcement and enactment of REAL ID.
-0 tolerance for crimes commited by non-citizens.
-Citizenship through service in the military.
-Adjustment of costs for immigration related services.
-(low probability but could happen) more power to the states to enforce immigration laws at will.
-Mexican and Canadian nationals getting immigration priority under provisions of the potential upcoming trade agreements.
-Mexican and Canadian immigration reforms making it more difficult to emigrate to Mexico and Canada.

all that while making it impossible to live and work illegally in the US.

would be nice to hear what y'all think could happen too!
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11-26-2024, 05:02 AM
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Given that i keep an eye on the DACA and immigration issues so much, these are the things that i believe could potentially happen in 2025.

When DACA reaches SCOTUS, it will be rendered as illegal and terminated which will cause a major crisis.

given the support we have of both parties they will propose a permanent solution.

then or at the same time it will force the Trump administration to deal with immigration altogether at once.

their immigration reform would include things such as:

-E Verify nationwide.
-EADs for long time illegals through a fine or paying taxes. Rednecks with seethe that it's amnestry
-Greencards or citizenship to DACAs. ditto
-Merit based immigration with extreme vetting.
-Amendment of the birthright citizenship clause.(one parent USC or something along those lines) might try, will fail, Wong Kim Ark basically requires extraterritorial jurisdiction over you to not be born a citizen, they definitely won't get an amendment through, in judiciary I don't expect Roberts or Gorsuch at the least to agree with that
-Enforcement and enactment of REAL ID.Doubtful, citizens aren't happy about having to prove address to get DLs. Most that'd happen is federally rejecting non-REAL ID DLs from states that offer them to undocumented.
-0 tolerance for crimes commited by non-citizens.
-Citizenship through service in the military.Doubtful, keep in mind that Trump killed MAVNI previously
-Adjustment of costs for immigration related services. Up I presume
-(low probability but could happen) more power to the states to enforce immigration laws at will. Unironically I suspect this one to happen but only in the way of Texas putting in naval mines in the Rio Grande
-Mexican and Canadian nationals getting immigration priority under provisions of the potential upcoming trade agreements. Doubt it. Trump will go into a tariff war that will end up with tit for tat.
-Mexican and Canadian immigration reforms making it more difficult to emigrate to Mexico and Canada. Canada possibly, Mexico who knows, who wants to immigrate to Mexico?

all that while making it impossible to live and work illegally in the US.

would be nice to hear what y'all think could happen too!
Honestly, I just expect the usual republican spiel of enforcement first, enforcement only. I doubt they'll put you on a bus and send you to Tijuana unless you're a criminal or get really unlucky. Instead it'll be just the slow bleed of being relegated to the edges of society.

So you know, can't work legally, might not be able to get a DL, can't open up most accounts, etc. That's kinda the general gameplan under them, make everything so shitty that people leave.
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11-26-2024, 10:28 AM
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Honestly, I just expect the usual republican spiel of enforcement first, enforcement only. I doubt they'll put you on a bus and send you to Tijuana unless you're a criminal or get really unlucky. Instead it'll be just the slow bleed of being relegated to the edges of society.

So you know, can't work legally, might not be able to get a DL, can't open up most accounts, etc. That's kinda the general gameplan under them, make everything so shitty that people leave.
Yeah pretty much but I do think they will do a few raid at large employers to show the public he's doing something. At least we won't be alone in our misery. All the Trumpers who are struggling today to buy groceries are going to be in a real surprise when tariff and immigration crackdowns increases the price of everything.
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My predictions are

- Trump will cancel Advance Parole again.
- Trump will propose DACA fix in exchange for deportations, funding and stricter immigration policies which will not have Dem support.
- We’ll be forgotten by next November
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DACA will be cancelled but Comprehensive Immigration Reform will pass which will include the Dream Act.
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DACA will not be cancelled

DACA pathway to citizenship will pass with stringent enforcement measures

It will pass both houses with overwhelming support!
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Bridge to nowhere in exchange for saving the affordable care act and border security.
Oh yeah and they will do deportations starting with the hardcore criminals and then once they run out of those they'll move on to normal regular people.
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Oh yeah and they will do deportations starting with the hardcore criminals and then once they run out of those they'll move on to normal regular people.
To those worried about deportation please read up on it and you will realize that it will be very unlikely we get deportation without a criminal record.

https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjustice...tretch-to-2040

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The judicial process — one small piece of a long, expensive deportation machinery — illustrates the complexity ahead.


The immigration system's backlog of 3.7 million court cases will take four years to resolve at the current pace, and that could balloon to 16 years under Trump's mass deportation plan, Axios reports.


Without a huge increase in immigration judges, millions of new cases would flood the non-criminal system. Trump likely would need new detention centers nationwide to hold people suspected of being in the U.S. without authorization — possibly for years.


The administration also would have to set up a range of monitoring systems for immigrants who aren't detained but are awaiting court dates.


Experts estimate the whole operation could cost taxpayers $150 billion to $350 billion.


Immigrants suspected of being in the U.S. without authorization are afforded due process by the nation's immigration court system, which is also where asylum seekers and other immigrants who may have legal avenues to live in the U.S. make their case.


Of the 3.7 million pending immigration cases, 1.6 million are for asylum seekers waiting on formal hearings or case decisions.


Immigration courts closed 900,000 cases from Oct. 1, 2023, to Sept. 30, 2024, says the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse (TRAC) at Syracuse University. That's the most cleared cases in a fiscal year, and 235,000 more than the previous year.


At that pace, immigration courts wouldn't clear all active cases until 2028. Add 11 million undocumented immigrants who Trump said would be part of his mass deportation plan and the backlog would go into 2040 at the current pace.


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DACA will not be cancelled

DACA pathway to citizenship will pass with stringent enforcement measures

It will pass both houses with overwhelming support!
If DACA has pathway to USC then why would it stay?
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If DACA has pathway to USC then why would it stay?
Why wouldn't it?
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