Seeds for Immigration Policy Debate Could Be Planted in Spending Markup

Ianus · 06-06-2009, 06:26 PM

There might not be any immigration meetings in the White House on Monday but there will certainly be debate on how to fund the immigration enforcement effort for the White House in the House of Reps. @ 5:00 p.m..

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The markup of the House’s Homeland Security appropriations bill could turn into the first proxy skirmish in an anticipated battle over comprehensive changes to immigration policy.

The draft that the Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee will take up is expected to hew closely to President Obama’s $42.7 billion proposal, and Democrats on the panel say their priorities are reflected in the $1.4 billion included in the request for capturing and deporting illegal aliens who have committed crimes, as well as in recent guidance from the Department of Homeland Security prioritizing a crackdown on employers of illegal immigrants.

“I think the new administration has picked up on this very nicely,” said Subcommittee Chairman David E. Price , D-N.C. “I’m sure they have their own reasons, but I think they’ve also picked up on the direction we’ve charted over the past couple of years.”

Price, who called Obama’s request a “reasonable budget proposal,” said appropriators are doing what they can to drive the immigration debate.

“We know we’re not writing comprehensive immigration policy, and we need comprehensive immigration reform in this country,” he said. “We can’t do that from appropriations alone. What we can do, though, is point in certain directions.”

But Republicans on the subcommittee have taken issue with this approach.

“There is obviously a shift in priority on illegal aliens,” said ranking Republican Harold Rogers of Kentucky.

Certain DHS policies on illegal immigration — such as the longtime practice of providing temporary work permits to detained illegal immigrants who can serve as witnesses against their employers — amount to “de facto amnesty,” Rogers said. He predicted that the department would shift financial and personnel resources away from workplace raids.

Republicans also will take issue if the draft bill reflects Obama’s requested increases for Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano ’s office and DHS management programs, he said.

“I am concerned that the budget request would give a 30 percent increase in administrative expenses, creating several new policy offices, and yet the front-line agencies like Coast Guard and [Customs and Border Protection] only receive inflationary gains and actually some reductions in the funding for the acquisition of vital ships and aircraft,” Rogers said. “That strikes me right off the top.”

Bruinman · 06-06-2009, 07:54 PM

sounds good to me. they need to stop raiding working families and put more money in border security along mexico border. gotta stop more headaches sneaking in before we address the illegal population.

KindaWant · 06-06-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

sounds good to me. they need to stop raiding working families and put more money in border security along mexico border. gotta stop more headaches sneaking in before we address the illegal population.

There already is enough border security, senator specter said it himself.

40% of illegal immigrants entered legally.

India has the fastest growing population of immigrants staying in the United States illegally.

India is nowhere near the Mexico border.

Bruinman · 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KindaWant

There already is enough border security, senator specter said it himself.

can you link me please to his quote? unfortunately, majority of politicians dont share your thought at the moment

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40% of illegal immigrants entered legally.

in other words, 60% enters the country illegally, through the border.

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India has the fastest growing population of immigrants staying in the United States illegally.

looking at pure numbers, out of 12 million, 57% of illegal immigrants originate from mexico, which is around 7 million. out of 12 million, only 300,000 are from india. yes, india has the fastest growing population of illegal immigrants, but the number of illegal mexicans coming through the border is still exponentially higher than the number of indians overstaying their visas. so, the biggest source of illegal immigration is still mexico.

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India is nowhere near the Mexico border.

yes, and thats why indians at least came into this country with inspection. same cant be said for most illegal mexicans sneaking in through the border. so i dont know where you are going with this argument. the biggest problem is still people coming in through the border, not people overstaying their visas.

dreamerhippie · 10:23 PM

Erase / Rewind

gijoe911 · 06-07-2009, 01:57 AM

dude bruinman, can you just stfu??

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

can you link me please to his quote? unfortunately, majority of politicians dont share your thought at the moment

in other words, 60% enters the country illegally, through the border.

looking at pure numbers, out of 12 million, 57% of illegal immigrants originate from mexico, which is around 7 million. out of 12 million, only 300,000 are from india. yes, india has the fastest growing population of illegal immigrants, but the number of illegal mexicans coming through the border is still exponentially higher than the number of indians overstaying their visas. so, the biggest source of illegal immigration is still mexico.

yes, and thats why indians at least came into this country with inspection. same cant be said for most illegal mexicans sneaking in through the border. so i dont know where you are going with this argument. the biggest problem is still people coming in through the border, not people overstaying their visas.

tiger66 · 06-07-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gijoe911

dude bruinman, can you just stfu??

seriously dude. this site here is for people to express their opinions even if they are wrong. correcting some one isnt going to magically pass anything or make you look good. to me it makes you look like a d-bag. everytime you post you always post negative stuff or gotta say something. just let it be.

Bruinman · 06-07-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gijoe911

dude bruinman, can you just stfu??

no.

lol i made another kid angry for no reason.

KindaWant · 06-07-2009, 03:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

can you link me please to his quote? unfortunately, majority of politicians dont share your thought at the moment

It was actually Schumer not Specter who stated "the borders are NOW safe enough" but here goes a link just for you:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05...y5028447.shtml

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

in other words, 60% enters the country illegally, through the border.

in other words, you are asking for border security to only cover 60% of the problem because it suits you best.

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

looking at pure numbers, out of 12 million, 57% of illegal immigrants originate from mexico, which is around 7 million. out of 12 million, only 300,000 are from india. yes, indi has athe fastest growing population of illegal immigrants, but the number of illegal mexicans coming through the border is still exponentially higher than the number of indians overstaying their visas. so, the biggest source of illegal immigration is still mexico.

following your way of thinking:
we should stop investigating violent crimes - because cops can catch more people driving over the speed limit.

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

yes, and thats why indians at least came into this country with inspection. same cant be said for most illegal mexicans sneaking in through the border. so i dont know where you are going with this argument. the biggest problem is still people coming in through the border, not people overstaying their visas.

If you are in the country illegally from overstaying your visa or crossing the border with out inspection, you are still charged with the same crime....

gijoe911 · 06-07-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bruinman

no.

lol i made another kid angry for no reason.

oh i sure am very angry with u my friend. lolz

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Seeds for Immigration Policy Debate Could Be Planted in Spending Markup