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AP Interview: Leader has back-up immigration plan

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If immigration advocates & lawmakers would have focused more narrowly on piecemeal bills then expand to a comprehensive one there might have been a chance,but this whole idea of going comprehensive first & then trying to save something by going piecemeal everytime is not a winning strategy,imo.
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WASHINGTON — The head of the nation's leading Latino legal advocacy group said if comprehensive immigration legislation seems unlikely in 2010, Congress should make down payments by passing smaller-scale reforms.

In an interview with The Associated Press Friday, Thomas Saenz, president and general counsel of the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund, said he fully expects work on rewriting immigration law to begin in Congress next year.

But if Democratic leaders delay, because of elections and a hostile political climate for immigrants, Congress should take up the issue gradually and in smaller ways, Saenz said. Lawmakers could address the need for foreign agricultural workers, provide legal status to high school graduates brought to the country illegally as children, and create equity for same sex partners who want to come to the U.S. or get green cards.

"As of right now, I have not been convinced that comprehensive immigration reform cannot move in 2010, so it needs to move. It needs to include all of these elements and many more," Saenz said. "If that is not possible, then I'm interested in discussing this idea of down payments with a commitment to fulfill the obligation through comprehensive immigration reform that is not postponed indefinitely."

Previously, immigration advocates have been reluctant to address immigration reform piecemeal to keep the various interest groups united on difficult issues, such as legalizing millions of people who are in the country illegally.

Saenz acknowledged that immigration reform is meeting fierce opposition. He also agreed that President Barack Obama may face a tougher road trying to tackle it than former President George W. Bush, whose conservative credentials made his stance on the issue more palatable to some. Obama is under pressure from Latinos to succeed, he said.
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Sigh, I agree with you.

I still think comprehensive immigration reform is possible early next year, but I wont be surprised if they instead pass individual bills for political reasons.
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Look at the way healthcare turned out. I really wouldn't be shocked if they are forced to go the piecemeal route, now. While it's not what the majority of people wanted, it seems as if the Dems and Obama may have to do it to save their credibility among Hispanic voters in the election year (See, we did something with immigration like we promised).
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They're going to go comprehensive, and it's probably going to fail if its in 2010, and then hopefully DREAM will succeed.

Why the refusal to consider things like DREAM and AgJobs separately? Who knows.
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They're going to go comprehensive, and it's probably going to fail if its in 2010, and then hopefully DREAM will succeed.

Why the refusal to consider things like DREAM and AgJobs separately? Who knows.
I happen to have a feeling that it's mostly due to the wretched condition of the economy, unemployment, budget deficits and the two overseas wars.

Without those issues there might not have been much trouble.
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I happen to have a feeling that it's mostly due to the wretched condition of the economy, unemployment, budget deficits and the two overseas wars.

Without those issues there might not have been much trouble.
we just got a bad luck.........damnit
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AgJobs, yeah in the current state of economy will have a much harder time passing but the Dream Act? Come on, this thing could be spun so positively in the media that it's not even funny. We have a large group of people supporting it due to humanitarian concerns( unlike CIR) and if the senators started mentioning things like higher enlistment rates, no financial aid, "conditional" residency, and the necessity to be in good moral standing with the law in order to qualify, I cannot really see much opposition for the DA. In media and politics it all depends on how you spin the story, we didn't have any of that in 2007. It came and went pretty quietly.
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They're going to go comprehensive, and it's probably going to fail if its in 2010, and then hopefully DREAM will succeed.

Why the refusal to consider things like DREAM and AgJobs separately? Who knows.
I doubt they would bring up something that would fail. Majority whips, especially democrats, count the votes, before they bring a bill onto the floor. They still haven't brought up the climate change bill in the senate for just that reason. I think they will make a decision whether a comprehensive bill can pass or not early next year. If it can't, they will scale it back just to pass something to please their constituents. If they let CIR fail next year, there is no way any major immigration reform can pass in the Obama Administration. That is just how politics works.

Anyway, I don't think immigration reform will be a bad as health care. Health care reform is the centerpiece of the democrat's agenda. Republicans want to kill it so they can gain momentum for the 2010 elections, and damage Obama's political sway, ala Clinton. Luckily for us, a health care bill will pass this year. It may not be a good one, but something will pass.
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Anyway, I don't think immigration reform will be a bad as health care. Health care reform is the centerpiece of the democrat's agenda. Republicans want to kill it so they can gain momentum for the 2010 elections, and damage Obama's political sway, ala Clinton. Luckily for us, a health care bill will pass this year. It may not be a good one, but something will pass.

As much as I think the health care bill is a bad idea from an economical standpoint at this time, if Obama doesn't secure the votes to pass it, I have a bad feeling the congress will just walk over him next time he tries to pass something as volatile.

Ironically enough, majority of US citizens don't understand that the Health Care reform is most likely going to further cripple the US economy, while CIR would most likely help it.
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Ironically enough, majority of US citizens don't understand that the Health Care reform is most likely going to further cripple the US economy, while CIR would most likely help it.

With the fines and processing fees that we'll all have to pay eventually, you'd think they'd be jumping at the chance to have that money.
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