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07-05-2010, 06:36 AM
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Hello, I'm a DREAMer currently living in Arizona and obviously thinking about moving out of AZ if nothing happens with sb1070. I have a couple of questions about other fellow DREAMers living in neighbouring states such as California, Texas, and New Mexico regarding tuition, police, job opportunities and such.

I was reading the list of states that give in-state tuition to undocumented students and most of them require to graduate from a high school from the state but I looked at the Texas requirements and I was wondering if this "OR" was some sort of loop hole in getting in state tuition after living in Texas for a year prior to enroll in a college.

"Requirements

* Lived in Texas three years prior to high school graduation or obtaining a GED from Texas "OR"
* Resided in Texas the (full) year prior to enrollment in an institution of higher education
* Provide an affidavit stating intent to apply for Permanent Residency when eligible to do so"

Does that mean that if I move to Texas, and live in the state for a year I can apply for in state tuition after that one year time? Since I did not see "must meet ALL three requirements" and saw the "or" as an option.

Also, how is the police in Texas when they pull someone undocumented over? Do they take your car like they do in AZ? and possibly jail time? Before this other law passed here in AZ, and one was pulled over and didn't a license, we would only get a fine for not having a license among other transit fines, but now they tow your car. Is it like this in Texas?

Also, we have E-Verify, which made getting jobs for my parents andmyself really hard, since they would verify our status, and employers did not want to hire any more undocumented workers because they would risk getting their business shut down and getting fined. How is TX when it comes to getting a job? Easy? Hard? Somewhat Okay?

Also, in case I'm not able to apply for in state tuition, does Texas offer various private scholarships? I'm thinking this because it's really hard to get a private scholarship that does not require your to be legal here in AZ, and before 300 was passed, it was very easy to get scholarships.

We're also thinking about moving to California since we have always wanted to live there anyways, but we would always hear that it was really hard to make ends meet in California. Is it true? How about getting a job? Do they e-verify you?

We're also thinking about New Mexico since they give licenses and we see that as a privilege and it shows that is friendlier to people in our condition? Is it easy to get into school in New Mexico even if you didn't graduate from their high schools? How about a job? Leases?

Please, any information you could provide me with would be greatly appreciated about any in-state loopholes,easiness of getting a job, police info related , etc , as you all know, it's not easy moving from your hometown and leaving a life, friends, and family behind--imaging it doing twice. So thank you for any information you can provide.
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I'm originally from Texas. I don't drive, so it's difficult to live here w/o a license. I don't know about in-state tuition, but private scholarships are not easy to find around here, unless you have amazing test scores and do a LOT of research.

A couple suburbs (e.g. Iriving and Farmers Branch by DFW) are notoriously anti-immigrant and have 287(g) in place, which deputizes local police officers to do the work of immigration officials. But that's not the norm. In terms of employment, I think it really just depends on what connections you have. If you have friends or family on either of those states, enlist their help and go to where they're at. In general, I'd recommend staying at at least 100 miles away from the border and residing in big cities.

Overall, Texas is huge and I think you're gonna see a whole range of attitudes and policies towards immigration varying from place to place.

Here's a list of cities with 287(g) agreements: http://www.ice.gov/partners/287g/Section287_g.htm Avoid these areas and good luck!
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Hello, I'm a DREAMer currently living in Arizona and obviously thinking about moving out of AZ if nothing happens with sb1070. I have a couple of questions about other fellow DREAMers living in neighbouring states such as California, Texas, and New Mexico regarding tuition, police, job opportunities and such.

I was reading the list of states that give in-state tuition to undocumented students and most of them require to graduate from a high school from the state but I looked at the Texas requirements and I was wondering if this "OR" was some sort of loop hole in getting in state tuition after living in Texas for a year prior to enroll in a college.

"Requirements

* Lived in Texas three years prior to high school graduation or obtaining a GED from Texas "OR"
* Resided in Texas the (full) year prior to enrollment in an institution of higher education
* Provide an affidavit stating intent to apply for Permanent Residency when eligible to do so"

Does that mean that if I move to Texas, and live in the state for a year I can apply for in state tuition after that one year time? Since I did not see "must meet ALL three requirements" and saw the "or" as an option.

Also, how is the police in Texas when they pull someone undocumented over? Do they take your car like they do in AZ? and possibly jail time? Before this other law passed here in AZ, and one was pulled over and didn't a license, we would only get a fine for not having a license among other transit fines, but now they tow your car. Is it like this in Texas?

Also, we have E-Verify, which made getting jobs for my parents andmyself really hard, since they would verify our status, and employers did not want to hire any more undocumented workers because they would risk getting their business shut down and getting fined. How is TX when it comes to getting a job? Easy? Hard? Somewhat Okay?

Also, in case I'm not able to apply for in state tuition, does Texas offer various private scholarships? I'm thinking this because it's really hard to get a private scholarship that does not require your to be legal here in AZ, and before 300 was passed, it was very easy to get scholarships.

We're also thinking about moving to California since we have always wanted to live there anyways, but we would always hear that it was really hard to make ends meet in California. Is it true? How about getting a job? Do they e-verify you?

We're also thinking about New Mexico since they give licenses and we see that as a privilege and it shows that is friendlier to people in our condition? Is it easy to get into school in New Mexico even if you didn't graduate from their high schools? How about a job? Leases?

Please, any information you could provide me with would be greatly appreciated about any in-state loopholes,easiness of getting a job, police info related , etc , as you all know, it's not easy moving from your hometown and leaving a life, friends, and family behind--imaging it doing twice. So thank you for any information you can provide.
I live in Texas. You won't be able to get instate tuition unless you wait 3 years to get your GED.

QUALIFICATIONS

1. Must have graduated from a Texas high school or received the equivalent of a high school diploma (e.g. GED) in the state of Texas; and
2. Must have resided in the state of Texas for the three years immediately preceding graduation from high school or the receipt of the GED certificate; and
3. Must not have established a residence outside the state of Texas during the 12 months prior to enrollment at University; and
4. Must provide a notarized letter stating that:
1. they will file an application to become a permanent resident of the U.S. at the earliest opportunity they will be eligible to do so.

You would need to somehow prove that you were in Texas 3 years b4 you got your GED/high school diploma. Unless you haven't got your high school diploma and you are going to get your GED, then you would have a chance. But you would still have to wait and live 3 years in Texas before you attempt to get your GED.

Police: If you don't drive, then you will be fine unless you choose to live in some conservative suburb where an officer may harass you. In most cities, you will be fine.

Job: Not sure. I received a scholarship for college so I didn't have to work. I did try a couple of years ago, but it didn't work out. I am guessing it is harder nowadays.

If I were you, I would look more at New Mexico. At least you would be able to get a license. New Mexico gives instate tuition. Also, conservatives in Texas will attempt to pass a version of the Arizona law so if that somehow passes, you would be walking into the same situation.
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does NM give instate tuition if you graduated from high school from a different state? I thought you would have to show legal permanent residency to qualify.
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does NM give instate tuition if you graduated from high school from a different state? I thought you would have to show legal permanent residency to qualify.
I doubt u'll be able to receive instate tuition if you graduated in Arizona but there are private colleges in New Mexico with low tuition rates regardless of status.
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Hey. i have been out of school for a while but i think in ca you cannot get instate tuition unless you graduated hs or got ur ged here. But if you go to a community college the units are not too expensive (i think im not sure-sorry but you can look that up). What i wanted to say though is that if you move to the LA area things do not seem to be too hard; if you get pulled over and have insurance you might get your car taken away or you might just get a ticket; it depends who stops you. in the San Bernardino area same thing, my sister got her car taken away last week, but my friend has gotten pulled over n nothing has happened to him. so i guess its luck. as far as renting apartment i guess its also not as hard as arizona. I hope this helps:0) good luck.
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